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    Hey guys, I think we may want to consider player extensions as well. Basically this would give you the right to extend one player already on your roster to a longer deal. This will help prevent a bunch of teams getting stuck with a big group of free agents in one year after we get rolling for two or three seasons.

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    I have submitted my cap on the group page:

    http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/gr...d=5&do=discuss

    You don't have to put it in a table if you don't want to.

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    I lost connection for last pick. For some reason I got lamb when my queue was set for Landry. Any way to fix this?

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    Just sign him off the WW. I had to leave early and I didn't get my guy either.

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    Default Cap allocations rule explanation:

    • Salary cap will be based on years and the cap will be 40 years. After the draft is complete you will assign years to your players. The total of all players combined on your roster cannot be greater than 40 at this point in the off-season.
    • After this point free agency begins. Teams may sign players to multi-season contracts if they have the cap space. If they do not have cap space than can sign players to one year deals; such a player cannot be extended in the off-season.
    In case you don't realize, you aren't required to sign everybody you drafted today. If you don't want to allocate cap to a player then don't and simply drop him from your team when it is unlocked.

    Also, if you do allocate all your cap you can still sign FA's, but the player you release to sign the new guy will still count against your cap. The next guy you sign can only be signed to a one year deal if you're over cap and will be unrestricted at the end of the season.

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    Just sign him off the WW. I had to leave early and I didn't get my guy either.
    Will do.

    What does the locked roster mean? I think this has confused me.

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    I locked everything down until everyone submits their cap allocations (deadline is Friday). Then I will unlock teams and free agency will begin. (the following Monday)

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    In case you don't realize, you aren't required to sign everybody you drafted today. If you don't want to allocate cap to a player then don't and simply drop him from your team when it is unlocked.

    Also, if you do allocate all your cap you can still sign FA's, but the player you release to sign the new guy will still count against your cap. The next guy you sign can only be signed to a one year deal if you're over cap and will be unrestricted at the end of the season.
    Hold on hold on; you are saying we can go over the cap??

    Now if I missed something pre-draft, you can point it out to me and disregard all below.

    I was under the assumption that it was a hard cap and that we couldn't sign any players to go over the cap. At least, I believe I haven't read anything leading up to the draft the gave the other idea.

    Now I'm seeing that I can go over the cap (endlessly) by signing players to one year deals. I'm totally not ok with that because my draft strategy was based on the idea that I could never go over the cap. And it's no small deal, I would have changed my approach drastically.

    I have taken very little risks with veterans who might have more injury risk or whose role is uncertain, like Ray Allen (according to reports Miami is very concerned about his health) or Jason Kidd (how many minutes will he get); and I've taken very little risk with cheap rookies/ young players who might or might not get minutes. If I would have take the risk, I assumed cutting them later in the season would be impossible because of the cap. So I have not targeted Austin Rivers or Ruben Patterson or even Royce White (who has a lot of risk, but a lot of upside and what it's going to probably be very clear within a few months), I have not drafted Teletovic, not drafted Tobias Harris et cetera et cetera. Instead I went mostly with, what I consider reasonably low upside, reasonably safe choices like Jarrett Jack, Mike Dunleavy, Isaiah Thomas, etc. Whether I am correct there is not the point. It was the result of my drafting strategy thinking I knew the rules: there is a cap, and you can not go over the cap.

    If I had known I could go over the cap I would have taken more risk, knowing people like Jack and Ayon (or players of a similar level) might still be available in free agency and could be signed even if I was already over the cap.

    Again, if I missed an earlier post where this was mentioned, in that case it's my mistake and I apologize in advance for my stupidity. But otherwise I'm not ok with changing the rules after the draft.

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    Quote Rules wrote:
    •Salary cap will be based on years and the cap will be 40 years. After the draft is complete you will assign years to your players. The total of all players combined on your roster cannot be greater than 40 at this point in the off-season.
    •After this point free agency begins. Teams may sign players to multi-season contracts if they have the cap space. If they do not have cap space than can sign players to one year deals; such a player cannot be extended in the off-season.
    Apologies if you missed this Soft Euro, but from what I can remember, it has been in the rules since Day 1.
    Last edited by Joey; Mon Oct 8th, 2012 at 12:14 PM.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Apologies if you missed this Soft Euro, but from what I can remember, it has been in the rules since Day 1.
    +1

    This is also on the very first post in the old Dynasty thread:

    After this point free agency begins. Teams may sign players to multi-season contracts if they have the cap space. If they do not have cap space than can sign players to one year deals; such a player cannot be extended in the off-season.

    http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...ue-Disccussion

    I always liked it because it was just like the NBA and creates a soft cap. Now if we could just get some MLE and mini-MLE plus a bi-annual exception!

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Apologies if you missed this Soft Euro, but from what I can remember, it has been in the rules since Day 1.
    Well, if you are correct, and you probably are, you don't have to apologize; it just reinforces the (among my friends) broadly accepted notion that I'm a big idiot. Can't believe I missed that; pretty mad at myself. So, my apologies. Disregard my remark please.

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    @tucas: for your own administration: your captotal so far, for 14 players, isn't 35 but 34.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I always liked it because it was just like the NBA and creates a soft cap. Now if we could just get some MLE and mini-MLE plus a bi-annual exception!
    Hahah Hmm that would be cool!.. but probably a little too complicated.
    Though I think it would be cool if we could maybe look at having it so every year the Cap is Marginally Increased (1 extra year, every year) like the NBA Cap is increased?


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    Can't believe I missed that; pretty mad at myself.
    Don't beat yourself up man. At least YOU have an established excuse early on, for when I win it all this year... Ahem .. snap.

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    @LilRomeo: you forgot giving Carlos Delfino a contract; for now I have him at 1 year (I'm preparing the spreadsheet), briging your total for 14 players up to 40; I, think, but am not sure this is within the rules for your initial roster, Apollo or Joey might be able to comment on that.

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    @LilRomeo: you forgot giving Carlos Delfino a contract; for now I have him 1 year (I'm preparing the spreadsheet), briging your total for 14 players up to 40; I, think, but am not sure this is within the rules for your initial roster, Apollo or Joey might be able to comment on that.
    As I understand it, you need space to sign someone to fill that 15th spot.
    Romeo will need to adjust his numbers accordingly.

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    How are you setting up the Spreadsheet Euro?

    As I'm laying my Contracts, its occured to me that, as the years go on, say I sign Chris Paul to 6 years; that 6 years won't go down to 5 next year, and 4 the year after .. it will remain at 6 for the entire 6 years yes?

    We should be keeping close track of when these contracts are signed, and therefore expire. Right now its fairly easy, but once we start signing players mid year, to three year contracts, it could get dicey...
    Or maybe I'm just in panic-mode, as I'm realizing the complexity of this league. Hah.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Don't beat yourself up man. At least YOU have an established excuse early on, for when I win it all this year... Ahem .. snap.
    For now, I'm not too worried about your team, you only outclass me at sf (and by a big margin), but that's it. Btw, did you see what one of your centers did yesterday? Robin Lopez, in his first preseason game? 0/4 from the field, 3 rebounds, 4 turnovers and a -22 in 22 minutes in a game they lost by 5 points. He's going to lead you straight to the lottery!

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    How are you setting up the Spreadsheet Euro?

    As I'm laying my Contracts, its occured to me that, as the years go on, say I sign Chris Paul to 6 years; that 6 years won't go down to 5 next year, and 4 the year after .. it will remain at 6 for the entire 6 years yes?

    We should be keeping close track of when these contracts are signed, and therefore expire. Right now its fairly easy, but once we start signing players mid year, to three year contracts, it could get dicey...
    Or maybe I'm just in panic-mode, as I'm realizing the complexity of this league. Hah.
    The sheet is ready, I just have to copy the data. If you sign someone for 6 years, he'll have 5 years left after the season. Apollo, you or me can just lower the contracts after the year. I'm working under the assumption that if you sign someone during the year, his first contractyear is just for the remainder of th season. So if you sign someone in January for 3 years, he'll have 2 years left after the season. Contracts don't expire mid season in the nba either.

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    For now, I'm not too worried about your team, you only outclass me at sf (and by a big margin), but that's it. Btw, did you see what one of your centers did yesterday? Robin Lopez, in his first preseason game? 0/4 from the field, 3 rebounds, 4 turnovers and a -22 in 22 minutes in a game they lost by 5 points. He's going to lead you straight to the lottery!
    Hahaha Oh its on. Talking trash about Shaqs second favourite Center in the league??

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    If you sign someone for 6 years, he'll have 5 years left after the season. Apollo, you or me can just lower the contracts after the year.
    5 years left, yes, but should still count 6 against the cap, no? Chris Paul should count 6 years against my Cap for that entirety of his Contract; as it is in real life. Otherwise, based on the opposite, we will all have an extra 15 years, every year, (as every player would count 1-less than they did the year before) to sign only a few free agents, all of whom will likely be bit players.

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