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    Bargs gets traded before anyone else.

    The more i've seen of him since he came back from injury the more i think he's gone. The team will win under Casey's system but he doesn't fit it at all, and actually hinders it.
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    Colangelo is never trading his goldenchild. Just hope he shows up for the regular season.
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    Casey has gone on record saying that Bargnani is the only player guaranteed a spot in the starting lineup. I don't see Colangelo shipping him.
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    Because of one pre-season game?

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    I personally feel that he will return to last seasons form if he can stay healthy. And I wouldn't want that guy traded away

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    In what way does he hinder the system?

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Bargs gets traded before anyone else.

    The more i've seen of him since he came back from injury the more i think he's gone. The team will win under Casey's system but he doesn't fit it at all, and actually hinders it.
    after on preseason game..... i also remenber last year he had bas preseason games too

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    If he can bring back J Smoove I'm all for it.

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    If he can bring back J Smoove I'm all for it.
    Damn staight, that would be a dream scenario

    Lowry, DeRozan, Smith, ED, and Val. That would be awesome.

    When I pretend to be an armchair GM, I want to take it slow and steady, but whenever JS is involved, I always throw that out the window. Being a GM and resisting quick fixes must be hard

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    Quote Fuchan wrote: View Post
    Damn staight, that would be a dream scenario

    Lowry, DeRozan, Smith, ED, and Val. That would be awesome.

    When I pretend to be an armchair GM, I want to take it slow and steady, but whenever JS is involved, I always throw that out the window. Being a GM and resisting quick fixes must be hard
    That would be an interesting starting lineup with just 1 player (Lowry) capable of hitting anything consistent outside 18 feet.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    That would be an interesting starting lineup with just 1 player (Lowry) capable of hitting anything consistent outside 18 feet.

    Your right, we would certainly miss Barg's 3 point magic. We still have T Ross, Fields, and JL3 for that. Nothing against Bargs, but Josh is a killer

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    Quote Fuchan wrote: View Post
    Your right, we would certainly miss Barg's 3 point magic. We still have T Ross, Fields, and JL3 for that. Nothing against Bargs, but Josh is a killer
    I was just remarking on the starting lineup you proposed. DD and JV would be neutralized with limited space to attack or roll. ED would have a crowded key to fight rebounds for. Smith would likely be unaffected.

    Any lineup with Smith at SF would need a deep threat PF in my opinion (Bargnani or whoever).

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    That would be an interesting starting lineup with just 1 player (Lowry) capable of hitting anything consistent outside 18 feet.
    Man, substitute Ross/Fields in there for some shooting and better D and you've got a lineup that would have the potential to be as good on D as the Ben Wallace Pistons.

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    Man, substitute Ross/Fields in there for some shooting and better D and you've got a lineup that would have the potential to be as good on D as the Ben Wallace Pistons.
    D is a possibility.

    But on O that starting lineup had 4 guys who could shoot the 3: Billups, Hamilton, Prince, and R. Wallace.

    That was my only point: DD, SMith, ED, and JV can't shoot outside 18 feet consistently..... or at all.

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    Bold prediction indeed.

    Although, he was really good defensively last night, and overall his shot was off, but he hit some significant shots. I was very shocked as well. Early on, the the team was pushing the issue to post Andrea, but throughout the course of the game, Derozan was the number one option.

    Against a bigger, less agile team like Detroit, Andrea should have a dinner with dessert against a rookie Drummond, and Munroe. I look to see Andrea dominating them both offensively, while Demar could have a game where he settles more outside because of the inside protection. Not to mention, Andrea takes advantage of younger guys on him.

    Demar's athleticism and slashing ability really bothered Real Madrid, because they didn't have the athletic ability or energy to match-up against Demar, Lucas, and Amir.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    That would be an interesting starting lineup with just 1 player (Lowry) capable of hitting anything consistent outside 18 feet.
    Agreed, they would need more outside threats if they want to trade for J.Smoove. I can't see a team being successful with little to no outside shooters.. Ross, JL3 and Lowry wouldn't cut it IMO

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    i have and always will stand by "bargs is our best chance of 2 points" everytime he has the ball. unless he really doesn't fit in there is no way he is getting traded. 7 footers are getting massive money right now. he would be sent to the bench and unleashed on reserves before he was traded.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    D is a possibility.

    But on O that starting lineup had 4 guys who could shoot the 3: Billups, Hamilton, Prince, and R. Wallace.

    That was my only point: DD, SMith, ED, and JV can't shoot outside 18 feet consistently..... or at all.
    If you're gonna call Rip Hamilton a 3 point threat, then DeMar is too. Rip shot 26% from 3 in their championship season, and made 18 all year. DeMar shot 26% last season, and made 24. Given the shortened season, that's twice as many per game. Sheed was a a little better, but not much: 31% and 22 threes made on the season.

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    Quote tkfu wrote: View Post
    If you're gonna call Rip Hamilton a 3 point threat, then DeMar is too. Rip shot 26% from 3 in their championship season, and made 18 all year. DeMar shot 26% last season, and made 24. Given the shortened season, that's twice as many per game. Sheed was a a little better, but not much: 31% and 22 threes made on the season.
    I don't think percentages are such a concern from a players prospective. I think it's whether a guy is capable of hitting from the outside over the efficiency. Rip was 'capable' of hitting outside shots, Sheed was 'capable' of hitting outside shots.

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    Quote tkfu wrote: View Post
    If you're gonna call Rip Hamilton a 3 point threat, then DeMar is too. Rip shot 26% from 3 in their championship season, and made 18 all year. DeMar shot 26% last season, and made 24. Given the shortened season, that's twice as many per game. Sheed was a a little better, but not much: 31% and 22 threes made on the season.
    Yes. Lets look at a group who played together for the better part of 6 seasons and only look at one season. That makes perfect sense. But even if we roll in the cherry picked season, there are still 4 guys in the starting lineup who hit over 30% of the 3 pointers attempted. In this hypothetical Raptor lineup, how many guys are going to hit over 30% of their threes? One? Yes, that is what I was saying originally.

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