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Thread: I'm calling it now: sometime before the trade deadline, Jose's ending up in Dallas

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    Default I'm calling it now: sometime before the trade deadline, Jose's ending up in Dallas

    Why?

    Delonte West just got suspended for 'conduct detrimental to the team', reportedly due to a locker room blowup over nothing after a preseason game, which probably means his bipolar disorder is acting up again. Dallas is gonna want some extra stability at the PG position, because West was basically their only backup (Beaubois is more of an off guard), and Collison is even less of a starting-caliber NBA PG than Jose is.

    Only problem is that Dallas doesn't have $10 mil in salary that they can send back that the raps would actually want, so a 3rd team would probably have to get involved. So I don't have a good suggestion of how exactly this ends up going down.

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    It's possible. I could even see Jose just remaining here until his contract expires. We would have a nice chunk of money at the end of the season and a solid PG rotation for when we make the playoffs . Maybe then we'd resign Jose to a cheap deal and he can finish his career with the raps in the same way Jamal Magloire is doing now.

    If we trade Jose we are one PG injury from sucking... again.

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    Quote pesterm1 wrote: View Post
    ...If we trade Jose we are one PG injury from sucking... again.
    And then there goes the pick. If something solid doesn't come back...and by that I mean a piece the Raps would like to keep...then just hold onto him and enjoy the cap space next summer.

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    Collison is a pretty good guard. I don't see them wanting Jose, regardless of what's happened with West.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Collison is a pretty good guard. I don't see them wanting Jose, regardless of what's happened with West.
    Collison WAS a good guard (in his rookie year), and has been steadily declining ever since. It doesn't seem too far-fetched to think that Cuban may not be 100% confident in his abilities, especially when compared to players like Kidd, Barea and Terry that he's used to.
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    Collison was the second best if not the best pacers player throughout the playoffs
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Collison was the second best if not the best pacers player throughout the playoffs
    That doesn't really explain why they feel Hill is the better option going forward.
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    i think its more of a money thing than they want to get rid of him because of talent or whatever
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Collison was the second best if not the best pacers player throughout the playoffs
    Not even close to true, Hill took over and started all 11 Indiana playoff games and played very well, Collison had a couple very good games, but had a few less than stellar ones as well. If your best player put up 9 points and 3 assists no way you get out of the first round.

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    I don't know. I really see Jose Calderon being a Raptor all the way through this season.

    If a deal were to happen, BC will only take it if it's working towards the financial flexibility and or we are acquiring an asset, key piece i.e. Rudy Gay.

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    The only sure thing is that Jose will start the season as a Toronto Raptor. If the team starts well and is a surprise team in the East then Colangelo will want to bottle that lightning for as long as he can (if his job is not on the line his reputation certainly is) and may even try to sign him. If it's the same old results we've become accustomed to then Jose is expendible.

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    considering DeRozan will most likely be testing the free agent market at the end of the season (according too hoopshhype), you know BC will consider packaging calderon with DeRozan too net a star 3 guard ( ie gay, harden) nearing the trade deadline. It seems this is inevitable, and possibly the best way the raps can land their star 3 guard.

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    What does Dallas have that a) the Raptors want (no 1st round pick to offer, no desirable contracts) and b) fits what the Raptors are trying to do long term?

    The only way Jose ends up in Dallas is via a buyout or a third team is brought in to the mix.

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    Quote codean wrote: View Post
    considering DeRozan will most likely be testing the free agent market at the end of the season (according too hoopshhype), you know BC will consider packaging calderon with DeRozan too net a star 3 guard ( ie gay, harden) nearing the trade deadline. It seems this is inevitable, and possibly the best way the raps can land their star 3 guard.
    Every RFA tests the market. Hibbert signed with Portland. Gordon signed with Phoenix. DeRozan can test all he wants but at the end of the day the Raptors have the right to match any contract unless they renounce his rights.

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    Can you explain how Calderon+DeRozan nets a player like Rudy Gay or James Harden? This sounds interesting to me.

    Why stop there.. let's package Alan Anderson and Amir Johnson for Lebron James.

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    D West is not going to be hard to replace.
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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    Can you explain how Calderon+DeRozan nets a player like Rudy Gay or James Harden? This sounds interesting to me.

    Why stop there.. let's package Alan Anderson and Amir Johnson for Lebron James.
    That is a bit much to give up. I think we should try to get a 2nd round pick too.

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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    Can you explain how Calderon+DeRozan nets a player like Rudy Gay or James Harden? This sounds interesting to me.

    Why stop there.. let's package Alan Anderson and Amir Johnson for Lebron James.

    lol
    I don't think that's unreasonable, especially if we throw in our second rounder and the other team either a) can't afford the players contract (rudy gay) b) the other team is looking for cap flexibility, or c) is shitting the bed this season. This would also depend on how much the raptors brass like or dislike the play of Terrance Ross nearing the deadline.

    Keep in mind we almost netted Chandler and Diaw for Calderon 2 seasons ago. I don't think its that far fetched.

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    I am hoping that there will be lots of teams who will be in the position described in the intial post and that the demand for a quality PG will be higher than the supply. I hope that Jose stays a Raptor for his career and we are able to resign him at the conclusion of the season. But I also know that if he can net us a solid piece in a position of need that that should be the priority. We will see.

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    Quote codean wrote: View Post
    Keep in mind we almost netted Chandler and Diaw for Calderon 2 seasons ago. I don't think its that far fetched.
    Keep in mind that Calderon wasn't a rental player 2 years ago. Would Memphis be willing to give up Gay for Calderon without a guarantee that he re-signs?
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