Outlook on Terrence Ross?

[ReubenJRD]

I want to get everyone's thoughts on Terrence Ross so far, because I've been very skeptical about him the past week and a half. I was actually fairly excited about drafting him, but now, I don't know.

Someone mentioned in one of the game threads "Ross is more of a project than I thought", and I'm leaning to agreeing with that.
If anything, I was a huge supporter of drafting Austin Rivers.

Defensively he has exceeded my expectations, offensively, he has been quite disappointing. My opinion though.

[Raptor_11]

I'm still liking Ross to Rivers. they both are having pretty subpar preseasons, but Ross is a stronger defender and athlete, while Rivers is quite small, but still very talented.

I think its too early to say for Ross. The talent is there, it's whether or not he puts it all together. I believe he can contribute right away off the bench, and can turn into a solid scorer AND defender

[ReubenJRD]

I'm still liking Ross to Rivers. they both are having pretty subpar preseasons, but Ross is a stronger defender and athlete, while Rivers is quite small, but still very talented.

I think its too early to say for Ross. The talent is there, it's whether or not he puts it all together. I believe he can contribute right away off the bench, and can turn into a solid scorer AND defender

The difference between Rivers and Ross is fairly significant.

Rivers: Chance to be a star. Can score from anywhere on the floor, and has probably the most NBA-ready game. Extremely talented, but only solid defensively at best. High reward, BUT, high risk player. The thing with him though, at his worst, I can see him being a 16-18 minute type player to come in off the bench to score in bunches i.e. Barbosa.

Ross: Chance to be a really effective player in the league. Works extremely hard, and has the skill-set to stay in the league for maybe 10+ years. Great defender, great shooter, and like Rivers, both can score out of nowhere. He is a medium reward, low risk player. At worst, a shoot-and-stop type player like Sefolosha, Dahntay Jones, Keith Bogans. A player any team would like.

It's obviously too early, but I felt the need to get anyone's thoughts on Terrence Ross so far, he seems to have been a so-so player for me.

[Hotshot]

I'm still liking Ross to Rivers.

But what about Ross Vs Lamb?!

The outlook is not as upsetting as not selecting Drummond. So what if you have JV?! you need to pick based on the best player available and the Raptors instead selected for a need.

Ross looks ok but so far he doesn't strike me as someone who is going to someday be a NBA star but rather a backup.

[theycallmeZZ]

I prefer Ross to Rivers... Apparently Ross destroyed Rivers in workouts.

Ross has only played 3 preseason games though, with only one really disappointing game... I'd wait it out.

[Puffer]

Ross looks good. If you look in the dictionary, uneven is the synonym for "rookie season." I will wait till December before I make any real decision on whether I think Ross was the "best" pick, but he was definitely a "good" pick based on what he has shown so far.

[akashsingh]

drummond doesn't even know how to play basketball and look at the above average numbers he is putting up. He has a very elite level of athleticism and good timing.

but what does that have to do with anything right?

[ceez]

Ross is going to be good, give him time.

Rivers is a black hole.

[NoPropsneeded]

you know why Rivers looks better? cause he's playing on one of the crappiest teams in the league. Ross is playing behind DeRozan and he doesn't get as much time to play. Rivers has all the freedom in the world, he'll probably get force fed minutes and put up high numbers. But T Ross is coming off the bench playing like 20 mins so he has to make the most of that and pick his spots on offense.

[ceez]

but seriously rivers hasn't even looked good

[NoPropsneeded]

but seriously rivers hasn't even looked good

i don't even watch the hornets. But Reuben says he played good so idk, i was just assuming

[Blacklash2k4]

you know why Rivers looks better? cause he's playing on one of the crappiest teams in the league. Ross is playing behind DeRozan and he doesn't get as much time to play. Rivers has all the freedom in the world, he'll probably get force fed minutes and put up high numbers. But T Ross is coming off the bench playing like 20 mins so he has to make the most of that and pick his spots on offense.

+1 that and Rivers hasn't even been doing anything well. He average 30 mins a game while Ross averages 21 minutes a game. In that 30 minutes, Rivers jacks up about 10 shots per game to get 8.5 PPG at 31% from the field and 0% from 3. For a guy that is supposedly able to shoot from anywhere on the court, the 0% from 3 is pretty damn bad. In that 21 minutes, Ross jacks up about 7-8 shots per game to get 7.3 PPG at 37% from the field and 57% from 3. I'm still glad we took Ross. Rivers looks like a very huge gamble that I'm not really willing to take. He has a huge potential to be a star, but he also has the potential to be just another draft pick that will never live up to those star expectations....

[Miekenstien]

liking him way better than rivers. didn't want rivers then either. his shot will fall. game speed, new schemes, better defenders are his issue right now. only a few come out in their first year looking like the player they will become. he will have some nights where he hits 80% of his shots and others where he hits nothing. him staying on the court is all his defensive effort and offense within the flow.

it's not like the team is running iso plays for him to get to the hole and he was never a slasher. kid is ray allen light. he can work on his drives and passing at practice but this year he will be a spot up shooter or 1/2 dribble shooter because that is what he is best at right now.

[Miekenstien]

but seriously rivers hasn't even looked good

+1

not at all. pg putting up 1 assist a game in 20+ minutes when he is supposed to be learning to be a floor general ouch

[ReubenJRD]

+1

not at all. pg putting up 1 assist a game in 20+ minutes when he is supposed to be learning to be a floor general ouch

Rivers is not at all a true point guard.

Who knows? I was huge on drafting Rivers, I just wanted to get the thoughts of people on Ross overall. I'm going to bring this up maybe in mid-November or so.

[Puffer]

...I just wanted to get the thoughts of people on Ross overall. I'm going to bring this up maybe in mid-November or so.

Be a good thread to return too. So far Ross seems to be shooting within the rhythm of the game. A couple of bad passes that are more related to better defenders than he is expecting as opposed to bad decisions on his part. Nice looking shot, nice stoke, seems to be able to handle the ball, good, heads up defender who isn't easily thrown off by screens. And so far consistent effort, which is to be expected of a rookie going to the Dwayne Casey church of "Give me defensive effort or ride the pine." I've been well pleased.

[mountio]

Be a good thread to return too. So far Ross seems to be shooting within the rhythm of the game. A couple of bad passes that are more related to better defenders than he is expecting as opposed to bad decisions on his part. Nice looking shot, nice stoke, seems to be able to handle the ball, good, heads up defender who isn't easily thrown off by screens. And so far consistent effort, which is to be expected of a rookie going to the Dwayne Casey church of "Give me defensive effort or ride the pine." I've been well pleased.

Im with you. I like what I see so far. He has the best stroke on the team (maybe Jose is a little better), looks smooth and under control. D looks solid (although not great yet). Hes far from perfect .. some sloppy shots and a few ill advised passes .. but thats life.

I cant believe people are even talking about Rivers - he sucks. Drummond has shown flashes of brilliance and may have the most upside of anyone in the draft .. so that one may sting (but it COULD sting just as hard for everyone, including the Hornets with AD - thats how good this guy COULD be (or he could be a bust, in which case his draft spot was right about on).

But, relative to Rivers, Lamb, Barnes .. Im good with Ross so far.

[Matt52]

Im with you. I like what I see so far. He has the best stroke on the team (maybe Jose is a little better), looks smooth and under control. D looks solid (although not great yet). Hes far from perfect .. some sloppy shots and a few ill advised passes .. but thats life.

I cant believe people are even talking about Rivers - he sucks. Drummond has shown flashes of brilliance and may have the most upside of anyone in the draft .. so that one may sting (but it COULD sting just as hard for everyone, including the Hornets with AD - thats how good this guy COULD be (or he could be a bust, in which case his draft spot was right about on).

But, relative to Rivers, Lamb, Barnes .. Im good with Ross so far.

I'd much rather Barnes to be honest. That one stings for me especially considering it was a coin flip that determined his landing in Golden State at 7.

[minks77]

It's too early to tell put PJIII is the one I think we missed out on. He's putting up some numbers, has had a lot of talk over the past 3 years and he plays a spot we still could improve on with the right size and athleticism.

I'm not down on Ross but the initial, knee jerk, gut feeling I've had since the draft was PJIII was a missed opportunity.

[Axel]

I really don't get the love for Rivers. He seems to me to just be a under-sized high volume shooter, so far the stats seem to back that up. I think he would have been a terrible pick for the Raps (or any team in the lottery).

Ross's game wont dominate the way some people probably want, but if he can defend reasonable well on the wing, and add some good 3 pt shooting ~ this year ~ then he will have done his job. Eventually he will have to develop other areas of his game (ball handling, passing, rebounding) but for this year, 2 things.

I agree with Matt that Barnes would have been great for the team. The guy I really wanted was Lillard, but getting Lowry off-sets that anyway since we wouldn't have been able to trade for a wing player that good to balance the roster. But I am happy with Ross over Lamb and certainly over Rivers. PJ3 still interests me but I think 8 might have been too high a risk for him. I would have thought the teens would have been the most logical spot for him to land.