I was hardly backing you up. If you trully believe what I said and what you claim to be saying, then there was no reason to call anyone a 'pessimist' as being a pessimist (or optimist) has no bearing. It would technically be impossible as there is no reality. We would all just be. You even mentioning that would indicate that you believe there is a possible 'reality' (and therefore there is realism) one that you may not share with Lark. However its somehow Lark's reality that is 'clouded' by his 'pessimism'?
I don't think he could have been more blunt:
Now even if thats missed, the environment he is making his points in should clearly indicate its an opinion. Ofcourse if there is no realism, then everything is clearly opinion, so how could you even question what he's saying is doing anything other than presenting an opinion?I'm presenting the reasons for my opinion
His first statement came by responding to:
yet its Lark's comments that get harped on for 'presenting opinion as fact', or not 'reasonable discussion'? He was very much responding to someone who did that very thing. Yet he gets a response of "whatever"? (from another) If you trully believe what you say is true (ie. no realism, 'reasonable discussion' yada yada yada)... you should be supporting Lark. Yet......If you cant see the improvement and growth from the raptors as a whole something is wrong with you.
Anyways enough philosophy. To actual facts - while their current exact cap room is a fact, its "situation", let alone that situation being "fantastic", is not fact. That is all opinion. See how easy it is to mistakenly present fact as opinion? Or believe your opinion is fact? Or question whether one is presenting opinion as fact?
Needless to say I'll go back to my initial statement. The center is always right of the left, and left of the right. Where you sit dictates what you view as 'fact', 'opinion' and 'reality'; and what and how you view the others 'facts', 'opinions' and 'realities'. But its those sitting too far on one side or the other, that are loath to realize this.
Last edited by Craiger; Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 12:38 PM.
It's been more than 20 messages since anything basketball-related has actually been discussed and this thread has become a pissing match about semantics and the metaphysical existence of preferred/perceived realities... which tells me that it's time to close this thread.
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