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    Default Calderon & JV mentioned in OKC dream scenario deal for Harden!

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ouston-rockets

    So we have been waiting forever for a true big man. Pretty much everyone in the NBA World have been saying for years that we need a true Big Man! We finally get one and all of the sudden his name comes up in trade scenarios for a non center. What gives?

    I guess people in the NBA are truly buying into the JV hype.

    Go Raps.

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    Quote Stahmenah_Vybz wrote: View Post
    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ouston-rockets

    So we have been waiting forever for a true big man. Pretty much everyone in the NBA World have been saying for years that we need a true Big Man! We finally get one and all of the sudden his name comes up in trade scenarios for a non center. What gives?

    I guess people in the NBA are truly buying into the JV hype.

    Go Raps.
    JV hype but a subtle (if realistic) dig..."their new Raptors pick (likely to be in the no. 10-13 range in the next draft)"

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    No harm in Presti inquiring about Jonas (and Calderon). But I'm sure Colangelo rejected the offer instantly.
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    Don't know if this was posted already or not. Sorry if it was. On my cell doing this. However, their names were mention just briefly in the article. Not much else so you don't have to read the entire thing. Just thought I would post link as it means in my opinion the people are taking notice of our boy JV.

    Go Raps!

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    No harm in Presti inquiring about Jonas (and Calderon). But I'm sure Colangelo rejected the offer instantly.
    well gotta be true since it didn't happen!

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    Quote Stahmenah_Vybz wrote: View Post
    Don't know if this was posted already or not. Sorry if it was. On my cell doing this. However, their names were mention just briefly in the article. Not much else so you don't have to read the entire thing. Just thought I would post link as it means in my opinion the people are taking notice of our boy JV.

    Go Raps!
    JV and Calderon were only mentioned breifly in a 'what OKC may have first looked for' with multiple other players and teams considered to (anthony davis, Utah's bigs, bradley beal, klay thompson). It was more about wanting to land a 'sure thing' prospect on a rookie deal than specifically Jonas himself. Thoughts in passing more than anything, but no doubt a compliment to Jonas.



    Tin Foil Hat Time:

    Keeping Harden on a deal just a bit below the max — the Thunder's ceiling — and sticking with Kendrick Perkins would have meant total payroll and tax bills between $100 million and $110 million in both 2013-14 and the following season under the stepped-up tax rates. That is a steep price to pay for a small-market club that makes only $15 million from its local television deal and may receive little help, if any at all, from the league's new revenue-sharing system
    interesting what the new CBA has done to OKC. Made it less affordable for them to keep their team together.... wonder who benifits the most from that? (LA, Miami)

    And the 2 year waiting period on the s&t restrictions benifitted who? (LA, LAC)


    David Stern - amazing ability to keep his system of the biggest names in the biggest markets even while creating 'parity' to benifit the small market teams.....

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    Like I said, it was just a mention in the article. But then again, they didn't have to put his name in there at all. To me, that a compliment!

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    Quote Stahmenah_Vybz wrote: View Post
    well gotta be true since it didn't happen!
    I meant, Colangelo proabably didn't hesitate to hang up the phone, as opposed to contemplating the offer, and then rejecting
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    If presti came knocking for JV, I would say that is a compliment to what GM's (at least the good ones) in the NBA think about him.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I meant, Colangelo proabably didn't hesitate to hang up the phone, as opposed to contemplating the offer, and then rejecting
    true that!

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    Default James Harden trade had some Raptors discussions

    So according to Grantland (it's footnote #1) in the Harden article there was some formal or informal discussions internally with the Raptors in a Harden for Big V and Jose ... personally i think it would be a terrible deal (never trade big for small) but it would be at least interesting... thoughts?

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    JV? I swear to god if BC was going to trade him i'd murder him

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    Quote stevenqntran wrote: View Post
    So according to Grantland (it's footnote #1) in the Harden article there was some formal or informal discussions internally with the Raptors in a Harden for Big V and Jose ... personally i think it would be a terrible deal (never trade big for small) but it would be at least interesting... thoughts?
    A bit misleading I think. The article simply implies what they think Presti might/should have wanted in an ideal scenario. Honoured that JV made that list but there was no insinuation that the Raps offered anything. No?

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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    A bit misleading I think. The article simply implies what they think Presti might/should have wanted in an ideal scenario. Honoured that JV made that list but there was no insinuation that the Raps offered anything. No?
    Beyond misleading.

    And this thread was already started:

    http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...eal-for-Harden!

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    Quote stevenqntran wrote: View Post
    So according to Grantland (it's footnote #1) in the Harden article there was some formal or informal discussions internally with the Raptors in a Harden for Big V and Jose ... personally i think it would be a terrible deal (never trade big for small) but it would be at least interesting... thoughts?
    A little off topic, but I never understood that golden rule. It certainly worked in our favour in the Villenueva for Ford deal.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    A little off topic, but I never understood that golden rule. It certainly worked in our favour in the Villenueva for Ford deal.
    +1

    It also depends on the small. Not a trade but in hindsight Jordan would have been a better selection over both Hakeem and Bowie.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    No harm in Presti inquiring about Jonas (and Calderon). But I'm sure Colangelo rejected the offer instantly.
    Presti: Hey bryan i was wondering if you are willing to trade JV...
    BC: *Hangs up*

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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    A bit misleading I think. The article simply implies what they think Presti might/should have wanted in an ideal scenario. Honoured that JV made that list but there was no insinuation that the Raps offered anything. No?
    I agree with you. Very misleading the way Stevenqntran stated it!

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    Sorry guys never meant to be misleading....The way i read it

    "All these teams, save the Hornets, had at least semi-serious internal or external discussions on Harden." was the footnote which to me reads as "semi serious" seems more then some sort of passing fancy...

    having said that i didn't mean to mislead anyone into thinking this was more then it was...but was curious to see what people thought if this was true...Harden who some people say is a top 5 SG (not sure i agree with that) in the league for JV and Jose (unknown and known quantities respectively)...

    Anyways i apologize again if i seemed to be misleading, wasn't my intention.

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