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    Why would we trade Bargs for Gay, it doesn't make any sense.

    Calderon + Davis + (one of DeRozan and Ross) should be good, personally i think dealing with DeRozan shall suffice, we get Rudy Gay + Darrel Arthur.

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    Would Bargnani be a good fit in the Grizzlies front line with Gasol and Randolph? They're deep at point guard also.

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    i think we should go after Wheeelsoonn Chandlarrrr! he would fit very nicely in our starting lineup. But idk if we wanna be paying landry 6.3 mill a year to sit on the bench.

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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    Would Bargnani be a good fit in the Grizzlies front line with Gasol and Randolph? They're deep at point guard also.
    Yeah I am not saying it is a valid suggestion, I am just speaking hypothetically.

    Im interested in how valuable people see bargs, and whether or not he is worth trading if we dont get a decent PF back.

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    Quote tenforthewin wrote: View Post
    Why would we trade Bargs for Gay, it doesn't make any sense.

    Calderon + Davis + (one of DeRozan and Ross) should be good, personally i think dealing with DeRozan shall suffice, we get Rudy Gay + Darrel Arthur.
    Darrel Arthur doesn't address the log jam at the 4 position. Overall needs will be to re-tool the point guard depth if Jose is traded, not to mention a centre behind Gray and Valanciunas could create some type of pure depth a every position.

    PG - Lowry/Lucas/3rd Guard
    SG - Fields/Ross/Anderson
    SF - Gay/Kleiza/Mcguire
    PF - Bargnani/Johnson/Acy
    C - Valanciunas/Gray/3rd Centre

    EDIT: It's a choice of the asset BETWEEN the 3rd guard, or the 3rd centre. Unless, the cap matches to allow another asset. Although, would prefer to have Gay + one asset for roster flexibility.

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    Quote Red and White wrote: View Post
    Lets say we made a trade for Gay with Bargnani and someone else (like a Calderon for example), would you guys be okay with Amir/ED as our 4's?

    I would be perfectly fine with Amir/ED/Acy as our 4's. It would be our weakest spot but the thought of a Lowry, Derozan, Gay, JV combo is tempting to say the least.
    IMO, Amir would be a temporary answer at PF. We'd still need somewhat of a front court offensive presence just to keep guys like Boozer, West, KG, Gasol, Randolph, Stoudamire, etc. from having easy nights defensively. We need to make opposing front courts work hard.
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    Pera, a 34-year-old technology entrepreneur, closed this week on a $377 million deal to buy the Griz. That much is known. Pera's vision for the team and his commitment to winning remains a mystery.

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    I still would love the Raps to land Gay. Just don't see it happening - especially with a team like Cleveland who has expressed interest in the past loaded with cap space, expiring contracts, and draft picks.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    If Gay is "ungettable", I still like the idea of Wilson Chandler.

    Maybe even Danny Granger, or Derrick Williams.
    Whoaaaaaa just looking at some old posts, can't believe people here really wanted gay and then hated on him so much later saying bc made a bonehead move.

    And derricks Williams went from being a 2nd overall pick to a bench player for the kings damn his career really fell

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    Oh my god.

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    Quote BigCamB wrote: View Post
    Oh my god.
    Rightttttttt

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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    Whoaaaaaa just looking at some old posts, can't believe people here really wanted gay and then hated on him so much later saying bc made a bonehead move.
    Hindsight is 20-20, smartypants.
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    Sure, but I'm curious how many of the people who seemed so keen to get Gay actually watched the Grizzlies play that season. Being a big Marc Gasol fan I watched every single one of their games and a part of me died when I heard the Raptors got Gay. He was terrible for them as well that season.

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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    Hindsight is 20-20, smartypants.
    It was just weird seeing people offer Davis Calderon as well as derozan/ross. That made made me just wonder

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    Desperate times makes u do ...........

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    A poster a while back said something like "the great thing about being an internet GM is you never have to live with your mistakes"

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    Quote 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
    A poster a while back said something like "the great thing about being an internet GM is you never have to live with your mistakes"
    Couldn't agree more.

    The thing to remember is everyone thought the Raps were getting the Sacramento Rudy, not the black hole that engulfed the Raptors.
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    Quote Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    It was just weird seeing people offer Davis Calderon as well as derozan/ross. That made made me just wonder
    One of those people was tenforthewin who isn't really a scholar lol.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I still would love the Raps to land Gay. Just don't see it happening - especially with a team like Cleveland who has expressed interest in the past loaded with cap space, expiring contracts, and draft picks.
    I thought Matt didn't like low percentage long two chuckers!

    Guess he "loves" them?

    :P

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    Quote Superjudge wrote: View Post
    I thought Matt didn't like low percentage long two chuckers!

    Guess he "loves" them?

    :P
    True.

    However Gay did more than inefficiently chuck. He played D, he rebounded, and (before his shoulder injury) had become a good 3-point threat. The idea was the 3-point would return which obviously has not - at least consistently.

    But instead of focusing on this comment from over a year and half ago I think the one I put up today is more relevant:

    The thing to remember is everyone thought the Raps were getting the Sacramento Rudy, not the black hole that engulfed the Raptors.
    "Championships are what we live for, now lets go win them."
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    except at the draft, which is all homework, politics and chance.

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    I couldn't believe that people were interested in Gay. I hated the trade the moment it happened. Gay's play had tailed off two years straight, Memphis made their deepest playoff run when he was injured, etc. Plus, it seemed to me that he would inevitably be making us solidly mediocre, at the very time we should be trying hardest to be awful.

    Of course, that trade allowed us to get an entire bench that's been a huge part of my third-favourite Raptor team of all time, so what do I know
    Last edited by JimiCliff; Fri Apr 11th, 2014 at 08:35 AM.

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