Sun Nov 4th, 2012, 10:39 AM
Calm the eff down
It's two games, 3 new starters, 8 New players, a new focus on offense, against a seasoned team that many expect to be 2nd or 3rd this season (Indiana) and a team that is assembled with two all stars in the back court and that is also expected to finish somewhere between 2nd and 4th. WE WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO WIN THESE GAMES...no sensible objective person in any sports betting arena would have money on the Raptors winning that game.
"This lineup isn't working" - Maybe, maybe not. Please say this after a concrete 15 - 20 game sample size.
"Fire Colangelo" - really already getting these threads two games in? You try and be a GM of a team in Toronto when there are 5 state tax exempt teams (San Antonio, Miami, Orlando, Houston, and Dallas) 4 big city markets with huge sponsorship potential Nets, Knicks, Lakers, Clippers. Every single free agent with a choice and worth a decent pay check is going to to go to those teams. How the hell do you expect any GM who essentially starts with his foot 1/3 in the hole to do? Has been bang on in everything he does...hell no. Has made decisions I thought were terrible at the time that turned out to be right? Several times, (Bargs contract, drafting JV etc.)
If we are going to build a successful team it is going to be in the mold of teams like Indiana, Utah, Detroit. Even though we are a larger market that is the formula we will have to follow.
Remember a season of between 37 - 45 wins with us keeping the majority of the losses close until the final minutes, is a success compared to where we have been. 8th seed is a nice goal, but it won't be a failure if we don't get there.
Sun Nov 4th, 2012, 11:36 AM
Raptors Republic Superstar
Sun Nov 4th, 2012, 11:40 AM
Raptors Republic Superstar
Oh yeah? But that just means we will be stuck in mediocrity through all infinity and every player who ever comes here and is any good will bolt at the first chance. ;-)
Sun Nov 4th, 2012, 11:49 AM
Raptors Republic Rookie
I think Colangelo should have been fired after he got virtually no return for Bosh leaving. Yes I would look at Utah and Denver also as models that we should have tried to emulate. They traded away stars whom they had very little chance of resigning and rebuilt their teams on the fly without missing a beat.
I think Colangelo made mistakes before Bosh left while trying to build a contender, and I think he has made mistakes since then trying a rebuild, rushing it, and proclaiming it was time to get competitive this year when (coincidentally) he has very little time left on his contract to try to show some improvement.
As I explained in the Fire Colangelo thread, I don't think he is building towards being a perennial contender. You disagree? Fine. But it is not after 2 games that I have come to this conclusion. It is after 6 years and 2 games, that I think this team isn't going in the right direction, and a change at the top is in order.
37 wins? A bunch of close losses and maybe missing out on the 8th seed would be satisfactory to you? I am sorry but I don't see how that result with this group is putting us on a trajectory towards contention. If you think its too early to complain about this guy then you are entitled to your opinion. Personally I think it is long overdue.