i think the key to beating the thunder is getting westbrook to try and be the man. when they spread the ball around and work it through durant they're near impossible to beat, but when westbrook decides hes going to win the game himself and ends up taking 20+ shots they can implode. look for lowry to be a agitator.
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ceez wrote: View Posti think the key to beating the thunder is getting westbrook to try and be the man. when they spread the ball around and work it through durant they're near impossible to beat, but when westbrook decides hes going to win the game himself and ends up taking 20+ shots they can implode. look for lowry to be a agitator.
Look for Lowry to be an agitator every game, that is Lowry and why he is perfect for this team.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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slaw wrote: View PostWill be nice to see OKC. Love watching Durant play. Plus, playing OKC means we'll get good officials for the first time this year. That will be a welcome change.
Looking for Val to bounce back after a couple of bleh games. Guards need to get him some easy looks.
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ceez wrote: View Posti think the key to beating the thunder is getting westbrook to try and be the man. when they spread the ball around and work it through durant they're near impossible to beat, but when westbrook decides hes going to win the game himself and ends up taking 20+ shots they can implode. look for lowry to be a agitator.
Some good analysis. People get overwhelmed by the athleticism, forget about how many other (negative) ways he can influence the game.
That last missed defensive assignment was....wow; I remember when I was in high school...
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Jaworski wrote: View PostI love Val and hope for great success and a long illustrious career... but so far he seems to be outplayed and outWEIGHED by every center we've faced so far... Hibbert, Lopez, Pekovic. Physically speaking, he looks like a kid playing with men. I wonder if he can gain another 20lbs of muscle in the next couple of years or else he's gonna get beat up.
The center position is the hardest defensive position to play because you have to coordinate the defense, be available for weakside help, play solid man-to-man, get into rebounding position, and, in the NBA, play the pick and roll 23 feet from the basket, too. Then, he has to worry about being productive offensively. It's gonna take time.
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stretch wrote: View PostNBA refs are excellent. They are well paid and well trained. Every game there are contentious calls that could go either way and yes, they do miss some plays on occasion but they are UNBIASED and NOT working against the Raptors. Over the years the game has become more physical because much of the contact is now deemed "incidental" to minimize play stoppage and keep the game flowing.
The NBA is far far less physical than it has been.
In this case, there was no technical, ejection, flagarant foul, suspension.... nothing.
Also in today's game there is no handchecking on the perimeter. I can only shudder to think what Jordan would have done without handchecking.
Watch some of the highlights of the Detroit Pistons Bad Boys years:
Then there is Riley with the Knicks in the 1990's:
I don't think the league is ANYWHERE NEAR as physical as it was 15 years ago and earlier. Basically since the end of handchecking.
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stretch wrote: View PostNBA refs are excellent. They are well paid and well trained. Every game there are contentious calls that could go either way and yes, they do miss some plays on occasion but they are UNBIASED and NOT working against the Raptors. Over the years the game has become more physical because much of the contact is now deemed "incidental" to minimize play stoppage and keep the game flowing.
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slaw wrote: View PostWho said it had anything to do with bias against Toronto? What are you talking about? Nothing to do with bias. Better officials referee the better teams in the NBA. It has been that way for 30 years. If you get the better refs, you get better officiating. Not sure why this is hard to understand.
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Posted this in DeMar thread, but I'll re-post here:
I want to see DeMar be aggressive against Martin, I think he has the strength advantage there and could force his way to the line.
He'll likely see a lot more of Thabo though, and that's a tough match up for nearly every wing in the league. The key in that situation is to get DeMar involved within the flow of the offense, be it coming off screens, in transition, or on basket cuts. If the ball sticks to DeMar's hands and he starts going ISO against one of the league's premier defenders, they're in for a long night.
And yes, McGuire better be getting some serious burn tonight!
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I think people are excited for this game. Hasn't started yet and already on the 3rd page of the thread. Lovin' it!
On a more serious note, I'm really hoping Lowry outplays Westbrook tonight. But unfortunately, we'll also need Derozan to perform well against a tough defender, as well as Bargniani. It'll be a tough one, but if Duane Casey has taught us anything, it is that any game is winnable with him calling the shots
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As the game is on nbatv....I guess it won't be on our nbatv, just tsn. We should be able to find an nbatv feed I guess. Btw, arse, I respect you but how in good conscience can you call raps by 2. Anything can happen but that doesn't mean you predict it. Maybe I should read the whole write up first
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stretch wrote: View PostYour source?
Indiana? 12 playoff games between the 3 officials. Tonight, Garretson is on the crew - widely recognized as one of the top NBA officials. 9 playoff games last year.
EDIT: I looked at this very fast. Someone may want to check the numbers on NBAstuffer but the general point still stands.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostReally?
The NBA is far far less physical than it has been.
In this case, there was no technical, ejection, flagarant foul, suspension.... nothing.
Also in today's game there is no handchecking on the perimeter. I can only shudder to think what Jordan would have done without handchecking.
Watch some of the highlights of the Detroit Pistons Bad Boys years:
Then there is Riley with the Knicks in the 1990's:
I don't think the league is ANYWHERE NEAR as physical as it was 15 years ago and earlier. Basically since the end of handchecking.
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