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    Default OT: OMG we are back in the lottery again

    If Klowry is down this team, this season is fried.

    I think many long term Raps are gone BC, Casey Bargs, Calderon.

    One step closer to KLowry for Andrew Wiggins...

    After essentially waiting 2 season for hope (since last season was a lockout tank job) how do we feel?
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    How do I feel???? Mmmmm
    Like you should calm the fark down!!

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    Quote OzRapFan wrote: View Post
    How do I feel???? Mmmmm
    Like you should calm the fark down!!
    haha!

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    Quote OzRapFan wrote: View Post
    How do I feel???? Mmmmm
    Like you should calm the fark down!!
    I hate to say I told ya so...
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    even I think this is being a tad bi-polar. The raptors are so maddening b/c they had the ABILITY to play so much better last night

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    Maybe Jose can start getting Bargnani going, like he did last year? Even if it results in losses, maybe Lowry comes back to a magician, in rhythm.
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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    Maybe Jose can start getting Bargnani going, like he did last year? Even if it results in losses, maybe Lowry comes back to a magician, in rhythm.
    Calderon can run an offense and get guys going that is not what has ailed the Raps for the past 7 seasons he has been a RAP.
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    Maybe Jose can start getting Bargnani going, like he did last year? Even if it results in losses, maybe Lowry comes back to a magician, in rhythm.
    In my opinion, Lowry's play this year should be a reminder to everyone what it's like to have a "real" player on our team. A guy that can impose his will on a game and make other teams adjust to him, and who can also control the game to a certain extent in a variety of ways. You want to know why there is no PG contraversy this year? Because Lowry is so much better than Jose that the discussion would be laughable.

    Last night's (1st quarter) loss to OKC, again in my opinion, was as bad as it was because we were trying to force feed Bargs the ball, and while he did score a little, he gave everything back and more on the defensive end. When Bargs plays with a "real" player and/or against legit contenders, it is almost embarassing to watch...for god sake...did you see him last night? and on national TV no less...

    My point is, we've seen Jose and Bargnani so much over the past several years, that I do not think that this is the answer. At its ABSOLUTE best it is a 500. team. I say it's time to face the fact that Bargs would be better coming off the bench with Jose as a formidable second unit. Move Amir (or ED) to the starting 4, and run the offense through Lowry, Derozan, and eventually, JV.

    Bargs has always been a sixth man....let's just move on and stop hoping that he can pump fake us to the playoffs

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    Isnt lottery a good thing? so we can get Wiggins?

    It may only be 4 games but those games sure showed a loooooot already.

    1) Lowry is "the man" on this team. Only him and Demar are true ballers. the others, regular basketball players.
    2) JV and Ross are nowhere near "cornerstone" form. They'd probably need another 2-3 years to be NBA relevant.
    3) Bargnani, Jose and Amir need to go, before Lowry starts pulling his hair out and starts asking for a trade.

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    Quote thegloveinrapsuniform wrote: View Post
    isnt lottery a good thing? So we can get wiggins?

    It may only be 4 games but those games sure showed a loooooot already.

    1) lowry is "the man" on this team. Only him and demar are true ballers. The others, regular basketball players.
    2) jv and ross are nowhere near "cornerstone" form. They'd probably need another 2-3 years to be nba relevant.
    3) bargnani, jose and amir need to go, before lowry starts pulling his hair out and starts asking for a trade.



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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Isnt lottery a good thing? so we can get Wiggins?
    Wiggins will be playing in college next year.

    We'd need to be awful during the 2013-14 season in order to have a shot at Wiggins.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Wiggins will be playing in college next year.

    We'd need to be awful during the 2013-14 season in order to have a shot at Wiggins.
    way to crush my dreams MLSE employee! hahaha

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    Wow.... I'd say this is a slight over reaction. It's one game. Lowry wont miss much time. Raps have point guard depth for times like these. And they have a brutal schedule to start the season. With only 78 games left, I guess some feel the season's over.

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    Quote BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    My point is, we've seen Jose and Bargnani so much over the past several years, that I do not think that this is the answer. At its ABSOLUTE best it is a 500. team. I say it's time to face the fact that Bargs would be better coming off the bench with Jose as a formidable second unit. Move Amir (or ED) to the starting 4, and run the offense through Lowry, Derozan, and eventually, JV.

    Bargs has always been a sixth man....let's just move on and stop hoping that he can pump fake us to the playoffs
    I agree with this....I think its about time that we make BOLD moves.....AB could be 6th man of the year.....he can come in and TOAST other people's second unit along with Jose.

    If i were coaching this team i would switch Andrea for Ed Davis in the starting line-up......we need to see what we have with ED anyways...... what do we have to lose?? Andrea's best game so far is 16 points?? He is leading the team in SHOT ATTEMPTS......JV took 8 shots and outscored AB who took 14.....This is very telling.... The future is NOW.... AB needs a fire lit under him and i think 6th man role is the perfect way to do it!

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    Quote OzRapFan wrote: View Post
    How do I feel???? Mmmmm
    Like you should calm the fark down!!
    Its okay guys, its just a Charlz thread.

    Its already been pointed out that Lowrys injury was minor in nature, and shouldn't cost him much time at all.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Its okay guys, its just a Charlz thread.

    Its already been pointed out that Lowrys injury was minor in nature, and shouldn't cost him much time at all.
    LOL! A.k.a., the TMZ of the Republic.

    Some people love sensational headlines. "OMG we're back in the lottery!" "OMG, an alien impregnated Miley Cyrus!!!"
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    LOL! A.k.a., the TMZ of the Republic.

    Some people love sensational headlines. "OMG we're back in the lottery!" "OMG, an alien impregnated Miley Cyrus!!!"
    OK MLSE employee number 3.

    whats the view like from your office down at the ACC Nilanka? All you do is character assassination jobs on anyone who offers a critical opinion the the Raptors.

    Yet time again people post accurate valid criticisms and you never address that - you just attack the poster. Obviously you have some skin in the game at MLSE sorry we are not all drinking the coolaid.
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    Quote charlz wrote: View Post
    OK MLSE employee number 3.

    whats the view like from your office down at the ACC Nilanka?
    That's MLSE Employee #389,543. Get it right.

    My office doubles as a broom closet.

    But I do get all the leftover veggie pizza slices when we don't reach 100 points.
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    Quote charlz wrote: View Post
    OK MLSE employee number 3.

    whats the view like from your office down at the ACC Nilanka? All you do is character assassination jobs on anyone who offers a critical opinion the the Raptors.

    Yet time again people post accurate valid criticisms and you never address that - you just attack the poster. Obviously you have some skin in the game at MLSE sorry we are not all drinking the coolaid.
    You're not helping yourself here...hahahaha

    1-3 isn't the end of a season, christ take a breath. Oh no, I guess now I'm an MLSE employee hahahahaha. Lowry down sucks for sure, and if we don't learn to adjust as a club, then yeah we don't deserve sh!t. But! I think Casey is a smart coach and has gained enough self confidence to be able to make said adjustments. Either way, we'll see how it pans out in Dallas. Even if it's a loss, if we can hang with them for 4 quarters and play a solid 48mins then I'll be happy.

    Let's revisit the whole 'skyfalling' convo if we're like 1-12...seem reasonable?
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    Quote pillowmint wrote: View Post
    You're not helping yourself here...hahahaha

    1-3 isn't the end of a season, christ take a breath. Oh no, I guess now I'm an MLSE employee hahahahaha. Lowry down sucks for sure, and if we don't learn to adjust as a club, then yeah we don't deserve sh!t. But! I think Casey is a smart coach and has gained enough self confidence to be able to make said adjustments. Either way, we'll see how it pans out in Dallas. Even if it's a loss, if we can hang with them for 4 quarters and play a solid 48mins then I'll be happy.

    Let's revisit the whole 'skyfalling' convo if we're like 1-12...seem reasonable?
    You are right 1-3 is not the end of the season (or 1-4 which they are today). I have seen a lot of Ball and coming in to this season there were some things that had to go right for the raps to climb 5-6 places in the east. This team is fragile and their margin for error is small.
    1) KLOWRY had to stay healthy he may yet play 75+ games... we will see
    2) BARGS had to play at his peak - 7 footer shooting 36% 4 reb/per/game (barf)
    3) production from small forward - Fields %20
    4) Build on the Defensive progress of last year... I think they have regressed

    I have seen bargs play for 7 years and with the exception of 30 games last year he is who he was for all but those 30 games - I am now certain of it. He is an albatross - they will never win with him.
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