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    Default Give the ball to DeMar!!

    That's all i have to say.

    Anderson chucking up shots in the 3rd quarter when they were down by 10 just makes me ***. Same with Calderon. And i'm totally done with Bargnani. He's way too unreliable. Yeah 25pts and 9rbs. His D though was garbage as usual.

    So, in Jack Armstrong's voice: "Hello" Give the ball to DeMar. He's made tremendous improvement this season. His shot and ball handling skills is so much better from last year. It's like night and day.

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    He's not kobe yet bro. Primo pasta is a shit defender and he can't box out a pylon to save his life. It's only 5 games into an 82 game season so just be patient and well see what happens. Trust me i'm probably more pissed than you, i sent like 20 texts to my friend telling him how shit bargnani is at defense and giving him trade scenarios involving bargs.

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    Like i posted on the trade forum. This team needs an Al Jefferson type of power forward. Good low post player, great rebounder, solid defender, tough. That's what they need. Heck, i'll be happy with Paul Millsap.

    Bargnani is just so bad it's not even funny anymore.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Like i posted on the trade forum. This team needs an Al Jefferson type of power forward. Good low post player, great rebounder, solid defender, tough. That's what they need. Heck, i'll be happy with Paul Millsap.

    Bargnani is just so bad it's not even funny anymore.
    While I agree DeRozan has improved offensively, Bargnani is still our 2nd best option offensively, and our best option when his shot is actually dropping (which hasn't happened yet this year). He still has the best finish on the team driving the basketball.

    You don't really think he's going to shoot 33% all year, do you?

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    Paul Millsap or J Smoove

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    Like i said, i'm done with Bargnani. He's very predictable, no awareness in his game. Can't rebound, below average defender.

    Bargnani = overhyped version of Toni Kukoc.

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    Like i said, i'm done with Bargnani. He's very predictable, no awareness in his game. Can't rebound, below average defender.

    Bargnani = overhyped version of Toni Kukoc.
    All I'm saying is, we don't have a better option. Until Toronto acquires a James Harden or even a Rudy Gay, we need him.

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    With the addition of Lowry and the improvements in DeMar's game. I don't think they need Bargnani anymore. They need a big that can rebound and play solid D inside. Bargnani can't do either.

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    With the addition of Lowry and the improvements in DeMar's game. I don't think they need Bargnani anymore. They need a big that can rebound and play solid D inside. Bargnani can't do either.
    Too much faith in DeRozan's "improvement"..he's had a couple good games but he's also had a 10 pt game shooting 30% and a 5 pt game. Inconsistent would be the word not improvement. As far as Lowry, you can't expect your PG to keep scoring 24 a game. Who is the 3rd option? Calderon? Amir Johnson? Landry F....sorry, we still need Bargnani.

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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Too much faith in DeRozan's "improvement"..he's had a couple good games but he's also had a 10 pt game shooting 30% and a 5 pt game. Inconsistent would be the word not improvement. As far as Lowry, you can't expect your PG to keep scoring 24 a game. Who is the 3rd option? Calderon? Amir Johnson? Landry F....sorry, we still need Bargnani.
    The first game against the Pacers was mostly due to nerves and contract talks. The game against OKC wasn't really so much that Demar played poorly as much as Sefolosha played really good defense on him which is what he's paid to do and be a starter.

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    Demar did well this game and I see it continuing. I would discount the OKC game a bit since he was guarded by Sefolosha who is an excellent defender who only starts to stop/slow down star shooting guards such as Kobe and Wade. It's not so much that Demar didn't play well that game as Sefolosha played really good defense that game...

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    Quote Blacklash2k4 wrote: View Post
    Demar did well this game and I see it continuing. I would discount the OKC game a bit since he was guarded by Sefolosha who is an excellent defender who only starts to stop/slow down star shooting guards such as Kobe and Wade. It's not so much that Demar didn't play well that game as Sefolosha played really good defense that game...
    That's just a Terrible defense as to why DeRozan had a bad game offensively. Do u think any of the stars in this league get to have a bad game cause a so-called specialist is guarding them? I friggin doubt it. Ya gott show up every single night, whether it's the 3rd game in 4 nights or your first in a week. DeRozan is getting way too much love in this thread. While it appears he has improved slightly, it doesn't warrant all this. See when he tried shooting over VC and it just got swatted away? Pass the ball to the open man, especially late in games down 8.

    #NotSoldOnDeRozan

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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    That's just a Terrible defense as to why DeRozan had a bad game offensively. Do u think any of the stars in this league get to have a bad game cause a so-called specialist is guarding them? I friggin doubt it. Ya gott show up every single night, whether it's the 3rd game in 4 nights or your first in a week. DeRozan is getting way too much love in this thread. While it appears he has improved slightly, it doesn't warrant all this. See when he tried shooting over VC and it just got swatted away? Pass the ball to the open man, especially late in games down 8.

    #NotSoldOnDeRozan
    dingdingding, we have a winner.

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    Hey guys, remember when we force fed DeRozan last year because there were few options? Remember how that turned out?

    The real problem isn't either Bargs or DeRozan alone, it's that the team's offense is being run by a bunch of guys who don't play team ball, don't swing it around the perimeter, don't make moves that are intended to get others shots, don't cut or set off the ball screens or have any understanding of how to create a mismatch through a pick and roll let alone recognize and feed a mismatch created in a secondary break.

    In short, the team needs well-rounded basketball players that bring more to the table than just scoring or just defence.

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    Quote Lark Benson wrote: View Post
    Hey guys, remember when we force fed DeRozan last year because there were few options? Remember how that turned out?

    The real problem isn't either Bargs or DeRozan alone, it's that the team's offense is being run by a bunch of guys who don't play team ball, don't swing it around the perimeter, don't make moves that are intended to get others shots, don't cut or set off the ball screens or have any understanding of how to create a mismatch through a pick and roll let alone recognize and feed a mismatch created in a secondary break.

    In short, the team needs well-rounded basketball players that bring more to the table than just scoring or just defence.
    Great post. There's no open look 3's because the Raptors NEVER swing the ball. It's like #1 move of the Miami Heat half court offense and we never do it. Penetrate and kick, swing the ball, look for open men, these are offensive principals taught somewhere around middle school basketball and we just don't see it. The Raptors offense is isolation basketball, and screen and 3. Brainless.

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    I rather have the "good" Keon Clark over Bargnani

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    I rather have the "good" Keon Clark over Bargnani
    Now we can agree! Keon Clark and JYD...that team was so easy to cheer for!

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    Now we can agree! Keon Clark and JYD...that team was so easy to cheer for!
    Don't forget about Davis and Oakley!

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    Antonio Davis was so beauty...matter of fact we don't know how good we had it with Glen Grunwald.

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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Antonio Davis was so beauty...matter of fact we don't know how good we had it with Glen Grunwald.
    Don't forget Kevin Willis, the NBA bench press champ!!

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