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    He let brendan wright have a million dunks off offensive rebounds or just driving.

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    Primo is in his PRIME and this is what we get out of him!!! what the bullshit!!
    what do you guys think about something along the line of primo for PAU Gasol?
    does it not work out for both teams? throw in Jose for Salary matching and LALA will definitely take him to play their Princeton- jose will thrive in it. and BARGS Defensive deficiency will go unnoticed with D-HOW side by him.
    and PAU gives us a legit star and perfect PF whose salary will expire in the 2014 summer BC mentioned.
    DEAL?
    just my 2 cents

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    Quote ball4life wrote: View Post
    Primo is in his PRIME and this is what we get out of him!!! what the bullshit!!
    what do you guys think about something along the line of primo for PAU Gasol?
    does it not work out for both teams? throw in Jose for Salary matching and LALA will definitely take him to play their Princeton- jose will thrive in it. and BARGS Defensive deficiency will go unnoticed with D-HOW side by him.
    and PAU gives us a legit star and perfect PF whose salary will expire in the 2014 summer BC mentioned.
    DEAL?
    just my 2 cents
    I don't want Pau. He's running out of gas, fast. What would be the point of acquiring a guy who's retiring around the same time our core will be ready to make some noise?

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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    That's just a Terrible defense as to why DeRozan had a bad game offensively. Do u think any of the stars in this league get to have a bad game cause a so-called specialist is guarding them? I friggin doubt it. Ya gott show up every single night, whether it's the 3rd game in 4 nights or your first in a week. DeRozan is getting way too much love in this thread. While it appears he has improved slightly, it doesn't warrant all this. See when he tried shooting over VC and it just got swatted away? Pass the ball to the open man, especially late in games down 8.

    #NotSoldOnDeRozan
    dingdingding, we have a winner.

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    Hey guys, remember when we force fed DeRozan last year because there were few options? Remember how that turned out?

    The real problem isn't either Bargs or DeRozan alone, it's that the team's offense is being run by a bunch of guys who don't play team ball, don't swing it around the perimeter, don't make moves that are intended to get others shots, don't cut or set off the ball screens or have any understanding of how to create a mismatch through a pick and roll let alone recognize and feed a mismatch created in a secondary break.

    In short, the team needs well-rounded basketball players that bring more to the table than just scoring or just defence.

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    Quote Lark Benson wrote: View Post
    Hey guys, remember when we force fed DeRozan last year because there were few options? Remember how that turned out?

    The real problem isn't either Bargs or DeRozan alone, it's that the team's offense is being run by a bunch of guys who don't play team ball, don't swing it around the perimeter, don't make moves that are intended to get others shots, don't cut or set off the ball screens or have any understanding of how to create a mismatch through a pick and roll let alone recognize and feed a mismatch created in a secondary break.

    In short, the team needs well-rounded basketball players that bring more to the table than just scoring or just defence.
    Great post. There's no open look 3's because the Raptors NEVER swing the ball. It's like #1 move of the Miami Heat half court offense and we never do it. Penetrate and kick, swing the ball, look for open men, these are offensive principals taught somewhere around middle school basketball and we just don't see it. The Raptors offense is isolation basketball, and screen and 3. Brainless.

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    I'm watching the portland game and their offense is soo smooth. Our looks like shit, we're pounding the rock literally. Maybe thats what dwane casey really meant by it.

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    Funny thing is. Bargnani is actually a good passer, he's just so fucking lazy

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    The one thing consistent about Bargnani's game is his sh!tty defense. He brings that aspect every game.
    “I don’t create controversies. They’re there long before I open my mouth. I just bring them to your attention.”

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    Easy. Lowry initiate the offense, put the ball in Demar's hands low post. Fields cut weak side or middle, Bargnani fill for safety/shot on the outside, JV stay opposite high post.

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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Easy. Lowry initiate the offense, put the ball in Demar's hands low post. Fields cut weak side or middle, Bargnani fill for safety/shot on the outside, JV stay opposite high post.
    Man your good. That's exactly how i would draw it.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Man your good. That's exactly how i would draw it.
    Don't know if that's sarcasm or not, but just a thought.

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    Demar has to be the WORST SG finishing around the basket I have seen in years. He has no idea how to pass the ball out of double coverage, he cannot dribble, he basically closes his eyes and prays once he hits the paint. Oh yeah, and he can barely shoot.

    At least Bargnani was "cold" the first few games, Demar just sucks.

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    Quote KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Demar has to be the WORST SG finishing around the basket I have seen in years. He has no idea how to pass the ball out of double coverage, he cannot dribble, he basically closes his eyes and prays once he hits the paint. Oh yeah, and he can barely shoot.

    At least Bargnani was "cold" the first few games, Demar just sucks.
    Wow.

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    I told you all. GIVE THE BALL TO DeMAR. I don't want to sound like a broken record here but his game has improved so much this year. Shooting is much improved, passing, rebounding, creating shots, shot making, and the most noticeable one is his ball handling.
    Last edited by TRex; Tue Nov 13th, 2012 at 01:54 AM.

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    I told you all. GIVE THE BALL TO DeMAR. I don't want to sound like a broken record here but his game has improved so much this year. Shooting is much improved, passing, rebounding, creating shots, shot making, and the most noticeable one is his ball handling.
    I agree that DeRozan has improved this year, but he's still got a long way to go to earn his contract. The 37 points he scored last night look good, but he was hugely inefficient. He shot 17/33, meaning he missed more shots than any other player even attempted. He was 1/6 from 3pt land, had 5 turnovers and that clear-path foul was a backbreaker.

    I am hopeful, but he has a long way to go still.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I agree that DeRozan has improved this year, but he's still got a long way to go to earn his contract. The 37 points he scored last night look good, but he was hugely inefficient. He shot 17/33, meaning he missed more shots than any other player even attempted. He was 1/6 from 3pt land, had 5 turnovers and that clear-path foul was a backbreaker.

    I am hopeful, but he has a long way to go still.
    I'm not really sure if you watch the game or not. DeRozan was incredible last night. He was special specially on the post. Definitely his best game as a Raptor.

    Btw, like i said on the other thread, the clear path foul that you were talkin about was on Kleiza not DeMar.

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    Who cares about the scoring?!!??!?!

    Rebounds in the past 5 games:
    8,6,6,1,7.

    Assists in past 3 games:
    6,0,7

    yes there was that 0 assist game, but look at his new attitude!!
    He is legit trying to get 5 rebounds 5 assists with his 20 points.
    Even his steals have increased an average of 30% from last year!

    He even passes the eye test. He is aggressive but more patient (The subtle rounding off of a pro skill) when driving. He is looking for the pass out of the double team, and has shown good awareness this season of the outside shooter (though no one can get those in), and he has his hands up in the passing lanes on defense.

    I cant ask for a more improved demar this season. I cant wait for him, 3 years from now...

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I agree that DeRozan has improved this year, but he's still got a long way to go to earn his contract. The 37 points he scored last night look good, but he was hugely inefficient. He shot 17/33, meaning he missed more shots than any other player even attempted. He was 1/6 from 3pt land, had 5 turnovers and that clear-path foul was a backbreaker.

    I am hopeful, but he has a long way to go still.
    I replied to your critique of his game in the other thread... You realize how efficient he was through 4 quarters? you seem to selectively ignore his 2 steals 6 assists and 8 rebounds to go along with his 37 points on 49% shooting. He didnt commit that clear-path, AND the only real critique is how he showed up from minute 50 to minute 60, which is not even very applicable since jumpshots turn to shit when youve been playing for MORE than an entire game.

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    I like that Demar is improving his scoring in ways other than just a 3 point shot. His post game has looked really nice, and his decision making is better. I tend to think of Demar in the the same way as Rip Hamilton; a shooting guard who has leant to score inside rather than behind the 3 point line. Of course, they have two different plays styles (off ball cutting and mid range game vs. post moves and finishing inside/on the break), but generally you get the idea.
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    Who cares about the scoring?!!??!?!

    Rebounds in the past 5 games:
    8,6,6,1,7.

    Assists in past 3 games:
    6,0,7

    yes there was that 0 assist game, but look at his new attitude!!
    He is legit trying to get 5 rebounds 5 assists with his 20 points.
    Even his steals have increased an average of 30% from last year!
    This is a good point, he's looking for things he can do other than scoring.

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