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  • #16
    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Bargs played great D tonight, what were you watching? He put the team on his back.

    On the other hand, DeRozan only made a mess of a drive a couple times tonight, far below his career average of "always"
    played great d? Compared to what his usual terrible d?

    If Bargnani's defense was 'great' there are no bad defenders left in the NBA.

    He was better than usual.

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    • #17
      Bargnani played like an All Star tonight. He should be able to get his shot on Sunday against the Spurs bigs.

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      • #18
        bargs is a big tower at times a tough cover for some teams, but the league doesnt play big nomore. 75% doesnt play big in crucial situations in games. and the 25% teams that got the bigs down the stretch of the games got bigs named duncan, ibaka, aldridge, HOWARD, BYNUM, GASOL(MARC), hibbert, lopez and LOVEEEE
        so whats the point of a barg that defends once in a blue moon!! put this detroit game in the showcase and ship his ass out!!!
        (notice how all those bigs' team are playoff bound or perennial playoff teams.)

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        • #19
          After losing to beatable teams like Charlotte and Detroit, I won't be surprised if they beat San Antonio.
          Attitude Is A Choice.

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          • #20
            *Il Mago

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            • #21
              Problem with the Raptors is that they need more killer instinct guys on the squad, too many passive guys. K-Low is the only guy with definite killer instincts, DeMar is showing potential but if gets a clutch 3 point shot going he will be fine.

              Bargs is not clutch, hes needs to work on post moves with Hakeem next summer or something lol. He does this televised ass pump fake move all the time, hes rubbing it off on JV, but JV does it with more ferocity.
              NBADoppelgangers.tumblr.com

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              • #22
                RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
                Bargs was definitely not the reason we lost. You have to be blind to be blame him for this loss.
                Agreed.

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                • #23
                  Bargs had his jumper going today but his D was horrible. Not saying that is the reason we lost, but as much as he contributed to the win with offence he also contributed to the loss with poor D. Not sure if anyone else noticed the stretch in the game when Detroit was drawing JV out from the low to the high post by switching Monroe onto him. That was done intentionally so Bargs is left to guard the paint on his own and they took advantage of it with Drummond getting easy points.

                  Teams are intentionally drawing the good post defender away from the basket in order to take advantage of Bargs' weak D.

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                  • #24
                    Mediumcore wrote: View Post
                    Bargs had his jumper going today but his D was horrible. Not saying that is the reason we lost, but as much as he contributed to the win with offence he also contributed to the loss with poor D. Not sure if anyone else noticed the stretch in the game when Detroit was drawing JV out from the low to the high post by switching Monroe onto him. That was done intentionally so Bargs is left to guard the paint on his own and they took advantage of it with Drummond getting easy points.

                    Teams are intentionally drawing the good post defender away from the basket in order to take advantage of Bargs' weak D.
                    Was this in the first half? Because in the second half Andrea was checking Monroe and it was JV who was getting abused by Drummond on the glass. By the way Andrea at this point is a much better post defender then JV it's not even close. Team defender JV is more active with his help D but 1 on 1 post defending your out to lunch if you think Dre is the weaker of the two. Last night the game was lost by Lowrys poor decisions/shot selection, Demar not showing up, the 3 spot contributing anything and the PG's/Casey not getting Dre the ball more. Bottom line him and 10 minutes of Ed Davis were the ONLY reason they had a chance.

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                    • #25
                      bargnani is always really lazy with his rotations, and thats the part of his defense that irritates me the most, as the play occurs behind Bargs' back. This game he was more involved, and i could see him be aware on defense. He did still miss a number of rotations, granted it was an improvement.
                      The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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                      • #26
                        TRex wrote: View Post
                        But in typical Raps fashion they always stay away from the hot guy down the stretch.
                        I don't think that the Raps want stay away from the hot guy down the stretch, but the other team makes an adjustment in the fourth and tighten up on D (like any good team should).

                        A true superstar star can still score (or find the open man) when the D adjusts.
                        The Raps just aren't good enough to adjust and still score.
                        They don't have a second or third option when that "hot guy" is being smothered. And then they are forced to scrabble, start to get sloppy and turnover the ball, and the other team steals the momentum.

                        Lowry has been better at being that "star" that can still produce when the other team adjusts, but no one else on the Raps can.
                        Bargs? Derozen? they have been mainly "one trick ponies" and thats why they seem to disappear in the fourth.

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                        • #27
                          e2thed wrote: View Post
                          Bargs is not clutch, hes needs to work on post moves with Hakeem next summer or something lol. He does this televised ass pump fake move all the time, hes rubbing it off on JV, but JV does it with more ferocity.
                          lmao, people here have really no idea what they're talking about. Bargnani's "televised ass"(??) pump fake is probably his best move, and it is nasty. To say JV has a better pump fake than Bargnani is blind hate and above all else dumb.
                          9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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                          • #28
                            Why does every big man fall for JVs fake?

                            I always scratch my head at that LOL!
                            The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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                            • #29
                              enlightenment wrote: View Post
                              Why does every big man fall for JVs fake?

                              I always scratch my head at that LOL!
                              Maybe they confuse him with bargnani... until he drives past them for a 2 handed stuff and they see "Valanciunas" on the back of his jersey.

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                              • #30
                                right now im just waiting for jv to become a dominant player 5 years from now so we finally get some talent to come play here because we fucked ourselves if we dont have a pick this year

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