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    Quote japetas wrote: View Post
    Really? Is he really better if both of them would play same amount of time? Asik's shooting percentage: 0.444 FG's and 0.621 FT's...
    Asik is averaging a double/double - which in my opinion makes him currently better than JV.

    Edit: If they were playing the same number of minutes, you have a point. But I still think Asik is better defensively. This is just my opinion, and I do hope JV ends up a better player, but after 14 games, I think Asik is better.
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Asik is averaging a double/double - which in my opinion makes him currently better than JV.

    Edit: If they were playing the same number of minutes, you have a point. But I still think Asik is better defensively. This is just my opinion, and I do hope JV ends up a better player, but after 14 games, I think Asik is better.
    Of course, Asik is a player in his prime - 26 years old. He probably won't get any better than this while Jonas should surely surpass him in the future.

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    Quote omgsomuchpotential wrote: View Post
    Of course, Asik is a player in his prime - 26 years old. He probably won't get any better than this while Jonas should surely surpass him in the future.
    Yup.. I was just responding to a post in which they were asking for all the current NBA centers that are currently better than JV. I included Asik in that list.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    What is your definition of an elite player? It's all semantics. When I think of elite, I think of a guy that can carry you to a championship. In my opinion Rudy Gay is not elite. Howard and Anthony are elite. Carter was elite (when he played for Toronto earlier in his career).

    As for current centers that are better than JV?

    I have the following:

    Howard
    Bynum
    Noah
    M. Gasol
    Horford
    Bosh
    Garnett
    Chandler
    Gortat
    Jefferson
    Bogut
    Nene
    Asik
    Hibbert
    Ibaka

    I think JV can be a good as a lot of these guys, but from this list the only 'elite' guy in my opinion is Howard. In today's NBA you don't need a dominant center to win a championship. Miami/OKC/Boston can get away without a stud center because they have other talented players on their teams.
    Good list!
    So basically JV currently as a rookie is a top 15 big man.

    My Expectations JV passes the following in talent:
    Ibaka
    Hibbert
    Asik
    Gortat
    Chandler
    Noah
    Bynum

    JV has the potential to be better than:
    Nene
    Bogut
    M. Gasol

    And, my hopes are JV passes:
    Dwight,
    Jefferson,
    Bosh,
    Horford,
    Garnett,
    The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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    Quote Vykis wrote: View Post
    His ceiling is harder to predict, maybe Chandler on defense, on offense I see some Duncan (runs the floor, shoots similary), Noahs hustle with great pick and roll ability
    Pau Gasol with Kevin Garnett like attitude. I think that's JV's ceiling.
    #Relax

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Pau Gasol with Kevin Garnett like attitude. I think that's JV's ceiling.
    now THATS elite.
    The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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