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Thread: The Toronto Media advises us not to panic. Are the Raptors where they need to be?

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    Quote Lark Benson wrote: View Post
    Just because fans have higher expectations for the season doesn't mean that those expectations are realistic or should set the bar.

    I'd like to point out that oddsmakers (who, despite what you may think, know a shitload more about professional sports and about the NBA than any of us posting here do) put the Raps between about 32 and 34 wins across many books.

    So who do you think had the more realistic expectations, the people who make billions of dollars taking money from people with high expectations, or the fans?

    http://www.beyondthebets.com/odds-co...s-sportsbooks/

    It's early in the season, the schedule has been rough and the team isn't performing up to par, but so what? Why does this season matter aside from development? Let things play out, if they're still in the basement at the all-star break and haven't shown signs of improving, then you can argue for drastic changes. Until then, any knee-jerk reactions are just going to set the team back further.
    wow you sound like bc. every season is a god damn rebuilding and development season. this year will be bargs year. etc, etc. fuck that.

    losing sucks. constant ridicule, watching a team play so badly. 4 years running. 5 years if you count being blown out by orlando.

    people say as a fan of the team you should always back them. but what if the team shows you no respect by constantly signing and overpaying bad players, never making the needed big changes to get back to playoffs and a winning record.

    and with the above replies, yea, BC hyped us up so much.

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    I don't know how much to put into Hollinger's Power Rankings, but I've found by the end of the season (in the past) they usually pan out to reflect the final standings with relative accuracy. That said, I've noticed he currently has the Raptors ranked #23 in the league, a sliver behind the 76ers who are over .500, and firmly ahead of Dallas. Not saying #23 is great, but I think it reflects that the Raps are certainly not as bad as their record reflects. Aside from the game against Houston, and playing Memphis who is currently the best team in the league (and on the second night of a back to back) the Raps have been in pretty much every game. That's respectable in my books. I'm not thrilled about their record or their recent efforts, but I'm guessing morale is low right now after so many heartbreaking losses in the final minutes of a number of their games this season. As the team develops together in the coming months, I suspect they'll learn to close-out those close games and the wins will improve. Will they make the playoffs? I doubt it. But by the end of the season they'll give us all just enough hope to look forward to next year so they can subject us to the same experience all over again. The Raps aren't a horrible team, but they aren't a great team either. They are mediocre. And that's really the problem because one of the hardest things to do in the NBA is convince a difference maker to join a team with a history of mediocrity (and in the Raps case a team located in different country to boot). In summation? I'm not going to 'panic', I'm just going to continue expecting this team to be what they are: mediocre. That doesn't mean I can't be entertained though. As heartbreaking as the close losses have been, they were nail-biting, and I was entertained. Jonas has been a thrill to watch, ED has shown flashes of what he's capable of, and I'm curious to see how Ross develops. The wins will come. Maybe not in bunches, but the Raps should end the season where everyone pretty much expected them to be. (Lesson: never expect any more than what's expected)

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    Default Doug Smith

    Doug Smith has zero credibility. He never criticizes the organization, no matter how bad things get. I think he associates a measured reaction with professionalism. Unfortunately, this really gets ridiculous at times.

    I vividly recall him defending the Vince Carter trade when it went down.
    "We can't judge the trade until we see what Babcock gets out of those draft picks" was his reasoning. Only years later, when Babcock is gone, does he admit the Raptors got fleeced.

    If the Raptors traded Valanciunas for Darko tomorrow, Dough Smith would defend Colangelo.
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