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Thread: Is Casey stuck in dreamland??

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    From the Toronto Sun:
    Lowry almost single-handedly got the Raptors the win in the second half Wednesday, scoring 29 of his team-high 34 points. Casey believes that would not have been possible without Bargnani on the floor occupying one of the Kings' bigs, thereby freeing up lanes for Lowry to do his damage.
    So Casey is basically putting the blame on Big V and beleives that Bargnani is the reason why Lowry went off in the second half. Is this the proof that hes just Collangelos puppet? Or just some really bad coaching? The only time I honestly beleived that the raps were in it at all was before Bargnani came in to replace Ed Davis.

    I understand his belief of bringing Big V off the bench in favor of Amir due to his defensive liability (which will get better with time), but his failure to ever put ANY blame on Bargnani is horrible. I get a feeling that Lowry will eventually have some negative run in with him.

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    Without Bargnani on the floor Lowry wouldn't have the space to drive. This point may get lost in the Barg-hate but its true.

    That said, they still didn't win with Lowry scoring 34, so clearly a different strategy would have been better.

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    Quote KHD wrote: View Post
    Without Bargnani on the floor Lowry wouldn't have the space to drive. This point may get lost in the Barg-hate but its true.

    That said, they still didn't win with Lowry scoring 34, so clearly a different strategy would have been better.
    +1 but i don't know how many points he got with bargs on the bench compared to on the floor

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    Quote KHD wrote: View Post
    Without Bargnani on the floor Lowry wouldn't have the space to drive.
    This is true in theory. But it assumes that Lowry doesn't have the skill to score in traffic without Bargnani on the floor. I don't believe that to be true at all.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    This is true in theory. But it assumes that Lowry doesn't have the skill to score in traffic without Bargnani on the floor. I don't believe that to be true at all.
    2 paint-oriented big men means 4 bodies in the paint on a drive. Not conducive to driving, regardless of skill.

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    Quote KHD wrote: View Post
    Without Bargnani on the floor Lowry wouldn't have the space to drive. This point may get lost in the Barg-hate but its true.

    That said, they still didn't win with Lowry scoring 34, so clearly a different strategy would have been better.
    Was Wade not able to drive when he had Shaq in the paint? Or how about Kobe with Bynum and Gasol? Or how about Jordan with Longley and Rodman?

    Bigs that create space for others is a myth. With the proper coaching you could clear up the paint for a wing/guard to drive to the rim even if you don't have a stretch 4.

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    Quote KHD wrote: View Post
    2 paint-oriented big men means 4 bodies in the paint on a drive. Not conducive to driving, regardless of skill.
    But it doesn't mean 4 bodies in the paint. Jonas, Amir, and Davis are all capable of stepping out of the paint and hitting 16 footers. That's all the space a player as quick as Lowry would need.

    I personally don't think having Bargnani standing 23 feet away (instead of 16) has a noticeable impact on Lowry over the course of an entire ball game.
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