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Thread: Dump your sh!t for prospects & picks!

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    Default Dump your sh!t for prospects & picks!

    I was very much against this concept for a long time but I am warming up.

    Youth is not the issue in Toronto, a lack of talent is.

    Those that point out SAC, WSH, and other teams that have consistently gone to the lottery with little success should realize Petrie, Grunfield, and the other GM's are just as bad or worse than Colangelo the last few years..... think about that. Bad contracts, bad trades, poor draft selections are the issues. It is all about maximizing talent and assets.


    Anyways, here are some thoughts on trades Toronto could do to start obtaining top talent - because we know they aren't coming via free agency:


    Trade 1: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bd7svv4

    Chicago: Amir, Kleiza
    Toronto: Boozer, 2013 1st from Charlotte (top 12/'13, top10/'14, top 8/'15, unprotected/'16), rights to Mirotic

    Raptors still need players and Boozer will be a big expiring contract in 2014/15 when the Raptors, if successful in this concept, might actually be looking to add expensive veterans. Boozer pairing with JV can't be any worse than current combination (#tradeBargnani).


    Trade 2: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aqo4eb4

    Charlotte: Pekovic, Lee
    Minnesota: Gasol, Sacre, Johnson-Odom
    Los Angeles: Bargnani, Ridnour
    Toronto: Williams, Tyrus Thomas, 2013 1st from Memphis via MIN, 2013 1st from Portland via CHA (top 12/'13-15, unprotected '16), 2013 1st from Detroit via CHA (top 14/'13, top 8/'14, top 1/'15, unprotected/'16).

    Williams is a prospect with upside who has never had a shot in the NBA. Thomas gets one chance before he is sent home on paid leave and he, like Boozer, becomes a big expiring contract in 2014/15.


    Trade 3: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=9wrclxo

    Toronto: Okafor, 2013 1st unprotected
    Washington: Calderon



    So doing all this:

    2013 picks:
    • 2 - Washington 1st, Memphis 1st, Portland top 12, Detroit top 14, Charlotte top 12, Raps pick 4-14 to OKC/make PO,
    • 3 - Raps top 3/make PO, Washington 1st, Memphis 1st, Portland top 12, Detroit top 14, Charlotte top 12
    • 4 - Raps top 3/make PO, Washington 1st, Memphis 1st, Portland top 12, Detroit top 14, Charlotte top 12
    • 5 - Raps top 3/make PO, Washington 1st, Memphis 1st, Portland 13+, Detroit top 14, Charlotte top 12
    • 6 - Raps top 3/make PO, Washington 1st, Memphis 1st, Portland 13+, Detroit 15+, Charlotte 13+


    2014 picks:
    • 0 - Raps pick 3-14/make playoffs and OKC did not get 2013 pick, Portland top 12, Charlotte top 10, Detroit top 8
    • 1 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland top 12, Charlotte top 10, Detroit top 8
    • 2 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte 10, Detroit top 8
    • 3 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte 11+, Detroit top 8
    • 4 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte 11+, Detroit 9+


    2015 picks:
    • 0 - Raps pick 3-14/make playoffs and OKC did not get 2014 pick, Portland top 12, Charlotte top 8, Detroit top 1
    • 1 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland top 12, Charlotte top 8, Detroit top 1
    • 2 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte top 8, Detroit top 1
    • 3 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte 9+, Detroit top 1
    • 4 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte 9+, Detroit 2+


    2016 picks:
    • - Raps pick 2-14/make playoffs and OKC did not get 2015 pick, Portland 1st, Charlotte 1st, Detroit 1st
    • 1 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland top 12, Charlotte top 8, Detroit top 1
    • 2 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte top 8, Detroit top 1
    • 3 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte 9+, Detroit top 1
    • 4 - OKC received 2013 pick, Portland 13+, Charlotte 9+, Detroit 2+



    Raps head in to trade deadline in 2015 with $30M in expiring contracts (Fields, Thomas, Boozer).
    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 08:08 PM.
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    That Washington pick is probably going to be pretty damn high. Would they really be willing to part with it to get rid of Okafor?

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    I like your frame of mind.. but would want to accumulate as many 2014 first round picks as possible (obviously unprotected). We need as many chances as possible to get Mr. Wiggins in Toronto.

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    Quote Ed Davis wrote: View Post
    That Washington pick is probably going to be pretty damn high. Would they really be willing to part with it to get rid of Okafor?
    I have absolutely no idea.

    I would think a solid free agent signing would be much better for them at this point than another draft pick.... especially in a draft where there are few wings.
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    I like your frame of mind.. but would want to accumulate as many 2014 first round picks as possible (obviously unprotected). We need as many chances as possible to get Mr. Wiggins in Toronto.
    I think a lot of other teams feel the same way. Many bottom feeder teams right now also have picks out that are lotto protected (Portland, Detroit, Charlotte, Sacramento). Cleveland does not have any bad contracts that aren't about to expire and continue to acquire picks. New Orleans already has a tonne of cap space for next year. Orlando does not appear to be a team that is trading picks rather accumulating. Phoenix would be interesting as they have a few bad contracts right now: Frye, Beasley, and possibly Dudley.

    But I do agree, getting 2014 picks is key.

    From the sounds of things the only way the Raps are going to get Wiggins is if they land top 1 or 2. Luckily if their own pick is not sent out this year, they still have those protections. 2014 also has more SF's than just Wiggins - but yeah, Wiggins would be a dream.
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