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    LOS ANGELES—On the sun-baked campus of UCLA, with the players and coaches wandering to the bus after a couple of hours of practice, Bryan Colangelo summed up the state of the Raptors with little equivocation.
    “This situation is, from all standards, unacceptable,” the team’s president and general manager said. “It’s disappointing, it’s embarrassing but this is where we find ourselves.”
    Where the Raptors find themselves is in a funk of unimaginable proportions. They’ve reached the quarter mark of the NBA regular season with a dismal 4-16 record, they’ve lost nine of their last 10 games and the capitulation in Friday’s 131-99 drubbing in Salt Lake City was cause for enough concern that players and coaches held a 25-minute soul-searching session immediately after the game.
    “It’s obviously something we are addressing, we continue to look and evaluate. Again, 4-16 is unacceptable,” Colangelo said.
    Colangelo, who had long planned to join the team here at the end of a season-long road trip, was going to continue his fact-finding mission with a series of private sessions with some players and the coaching staff Saturday night.
    “There’s been a lot of dialogue, a lot of discussion,” he said. “It’s constant evaluation of what we’re doing and how we’re doing it and why we’re doing it.”
    With a team going as poorly as the Raptors are, there are inevitable rumours circulating about trades and other roster moves and the future of the men in charge.
    Colangelo, whose contract is not guaranteed past this year, and coach Dwane Casey, who has already had his 2013-14 option picked up, are the two most prominent targets for public angst.
    But that’s no greater than the pressure they put on themselves.
    “We’re all under a microscope now, as should be the case, including myself,” said Colangelo. “We clearly have to make this right.”
    There might not be a quick fix, however. While rumours are abundant — most swirling around enigmatic forward Andrea Bargnani — the GM said he’s not going to make a move simply to make a move. He believes it’s prudent to take a calm and measured path in his constant discussions about improving the roster.
    “We’re always pursuing every possible avenue to get better,” he said. “When teams struggle, it creates opportunity sometimes. Sharks begin circling and different things start popping up but you can’t believe everything that’s been written out there, you can’t focus on one thing or one player.
    “You’ve got to look at this as a disappointing situation that we’re trying to make better.”
    With Casey saying earlier Saturday that he wasn’t about to tinker with his starting lineup (although “minutes and rotations will change according to production,” the coach said), Colangelo defended the skill level of his team.
    “I don’t believe this is a talent issue,” he said. “I think it’s a lack of focus, attention to detail, consistency of competing. We’ve shown flashes of very good basketball, just not good enough to pull out games when we need to pull them out.”
    Casey said the post-game meeting in Salt Lake City didn’t unearth any new revelations about what’s wrong with the team. But he did say it was good to hear players come to the same conclusions the coaches have.
    “It’s always good to hear them verbalize it and say it and speak to the issues that they feel are issues and, lo and behold, they’re the same issues that as a staff we saw and see,” he said.
    “They tend to be honest when they’re talking about other players and the issues that are at hand — pretty brutally honest — and that’s what you want.
    “You want guys to be honest and open.”
    I wonder if the problems all came up with was Bargnani. This seems like a time when BC may make a desperation move to save his job. The raptors can't get much worse so how bad could a trade be?

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    Quote tucas wrote: View Post
    I wonder if the problems all came up with was Bargnani. This seems like a time when BC may make a desperation move to save his job. The raptors can't get much worse so how bad could a trade be?
    scary thought:

    Players - "Refs are bias and we aren't getting calls! They are totally screwing us. What are we supposed to do?"

    Casey - "I agree. Good to see we are all on the same page"

    Joking aside, I am very curious to know what conclusions the team came to. I highly doubt anyone accused any specific player or players on the team. Hope I'm wrong there, as Antoine Wright did so not so subtley a number of years ago. Ofcourse his role sure seemed to decrease with the team after that.

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    Colangelo will do something to try and fix the problem but I don't think it'll be a 'desperation move'.
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    It is pretty weird that the team did better last year despite Rasual Butler eating up time. Personally, I say axe the coach. I think the talent should suffice to pull out about a third of the matches. Getting rid of Bargnani is, of course, a good idea, but time should be taken to set up the right trade. In the meantime, why don't they try using him as a sixth man. If it works, it would enhance the trade possibilities. This organization simply seems to lack common sense. It's like they're always too arrogant to try the obvious things.

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    I was wondering when Colangelo would come out of hiding.

    By the way, the only guy that should be embarrassed is Colangelo for putting together this ill-conceived team full of mismatched personnel and one-dimensional players. He's either a knave or a fool if he's pointing fingers at anyone but himself.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    I was wondering when Colangelo would come out of hiding.

    By the way, the only guy that should be embarrassed is Colangelo for putting together this ill-conceived team full of mismatched personnel and one-dimensional players. He's either a knave or a fool if he's pointing fingers at anyone but himself.

    Call me crazy but this lineup coming in had a lot of people ready for a somewhat competitive season. no one imagined 4-16. This is more on the coach then anything. Stats tell all from last year to this year. Same roster with the addition of more defensive minded players. yet we have fallen back to worst defensive rating. That is the mo fo problem. Teams are scoring well above 100 on a team that has a defensive minded coach.

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    Quote imaginelino wrote: View Post
    Call me crazy but this lineup coming in had a lot of people ready for a somewhat competitive season. no one imagined 4-16. This is more on the coach then anything. Stats tell all from last year to this year. Same roster with the addition of more defensive minded players. yet we have fallen back to worst defensive rating. That is the mo fo problem. Teams are scoring well above 100 on a team that has a defensive minded coach.
    Yup. People can blame talent all they want, but there's a lot more to it than that

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    Quote Raptor_11 wrote: View Post
    Yup. People can blame talent all they want, but there's a lot more to it than that
    its the type of talent we have..we got guys who play defence but cant score..then we got guys who score but cant defend..we got guys who can shoot but cant do much else..then we got guys who can drive & dunk but cant shoot....We need guys who can do more then 1 thing good...coaching is only a small portion of a much bigger problem. IMO although DC cant get a free pass either since hes a defensive coach first, with little skills on offence...youd think someone who is good at running D sets would be able to devise an offence that cant be stopped.. i mean an offence that even the best D would have trouble guarding.. ud think anyway
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    Can't we just acquire Derrick Williams and Pau Gasol already? Goodness. LOL.

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    "I don’t believe this is a talent issue,” he said. “I think it’s a lack of focus, attention to detail, consistency of competing.
    He's covering for himself. "There's nothing wrong with the team I put together"

    Casey better count his days...
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    "I don’t believe this is a talent issue,”

    Well, then who is going to represent Toronto at the allstar game? Who drafted the last player to represent us, Bryan?


    ... how long have you been here? 8 years? You don't say

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    Quote BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    Well, then who is going to represent Toronto at the allstar game? Who drafted the last player to represent us, Bryan?


    ... how long have you been here? 8 years? You don't say

    this motherfuckers here for 8 years??? wowww fire the ownershippp first then jeeeze

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    "Colangelo, whose contract is not guaranteed past this year, and coach Dwane Casey, who has already had his 2013-14 option picked up, are the two most prominent targets for public angst."

    I think Barg's is public enemy #1 these days. Even most of the BC related comments in the past few weeks have been to the tune of "trade Barg's and I might forgive him".

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