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    Default Coaching is the problem, period!

    so LK playing well. zone defence got us back in the game and what does casey do? take LK out the game, go away from zone and get trashed in the fourth. My marriage with the raps is not working out.

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    *one of the many problems

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    It doesn't even make sense that Kleiza wasn't in the game during the 4th quarter... why play Ross when he was obviously struggling. Kleiza comes in with 1 minute left and then drills a three... almost like a statement.

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    Quote AJ360 wrote: View Post
    It doesn't even make sense that Kleiza wasn't in the game during the 4th quarter... why play Ross when he was obviously struggling. Kleiza comes in with 1 minute left and then drills a three... almost like a statement.
    Not almost, I think it was a statement. We barely had a fieldgoald in the 4th and Kleiza was kept on the bench in favor of Lucas and Ross.

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    its beyond ridiculous. Watching these games are just dumb. It just doesnt make any sense. Am i missing something???? We play 3 quarters and thats it.

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    I don't know what to say. If people think that us beating a healthy Clipper team with our squad is simply a matter of coaching, then they are being ignorant of the fact that his coaching kept up with the clippers for over 3 quarters.

    I just think we have a lot of sub par starters that are not top tier talent. The 4th is when guys like Blake and Paul shine, and guys like Derozan fade. We are a poorly constructed team (for competition, we are instead constructed for development, we need to pick one or the other, we don't have the squad/luxury to do both).
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    This team is bad. Thats the problem, period!

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    Quote BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    I don't know what to say. If people think that us beating a healthy Clipper team with our squad is simply a matter of coaching, then they are being ignorant of the fact that his coaching kept up with the clippers for over 3 quarters.

    I just think we have a lot of sub par starters that are not top tier talent. The 4th is when guys like Blake and Paul shine, and guys like Derozan fade. We are a poorly constructed team (for competition, we are instead constructed for development, we need to pick one or the other, we don't have the squad/luxury to do both).
    Griffin and Paul weren't in the game, DeRozan was the only starter in untill the game was as good as over (11 or 13 points behind). This year Crawford is their 4th quarter mvp.

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    Quote BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    I don't know what to say. If people think that us beating a healthy Clipper team with our squad is simply a matter of coaching, then they are being ignorant of the fact that his coaching kept up with the clippers for over 3 quarters.

    I just think we have a lot of sub par starters that are not top tier talent. The 4th is when guys like Blake and Paul shine, and guys like Derozan fade. We are a poorly constructed team (for competition, we are instead constructed for development, we need to pick one or the other, we don't have the squad/luxury to do both).
    What an ignorant statement. At least have 'some' facts before you post anything. It was the bench that was beating us in the fourth, not the clipper starters. And Casey didnt even put back in the starters until we were down 19.

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    Quote DaveKim wrote: View Post
    It was the bench that was beating us in the fourth, not the clipper starters.
    Exactly. The clippers bench is basically as good as our starting five. They're a deep team, and a good team. We have no business beating them on the road, no matter who's coaching.

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    And Casey didnt even put back in the starters until we were down 19.
    Pretty sure that DD and AB, and maybe Lowry, were put back in when they were ten down.

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    I don't even know why I opened this thread.

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    Quote JimiCliff wrote: View Post
    I don't even know why I opened this thread.
    wow lol, i thought i opened this thread. my bad. lol

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    Quote Stahmenah_Vybz wrote: View Post
    so LK playing well. zone defence got us back in the game and what does casey do? take LK out the game, go away from zone and get trashed in the fourth. My marriage with the raps is not working out.
    LK is finished.. he is clearly all kneed up.. he sucks. The problems run way deeper then going away from zone..
    I see zone as a strategy used by teams who suck and have no talent.

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    Quote b2kelly wrote: View Post
    LK is finished.. he is clearly all kneed up.. he sucks. The problems run way deeper then going away from zone..
    I see zone as a strategy used by teams who suck and have no talent.
    Excellent point. You generally only use a zone when you simply don't have athletes who can stay with their man in a man on man defence. That's the Raptors. Unless there is a talent upgrade, no coach is going to be able to fix this.

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    I'm not interested in playing Kleiza at all. Not even for half a minute.

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    Well, losing by 19 instead of 31 is a step in the right direction. My beloved Raptors are making progress. Soon we'll only be losing by 10 and then by 1 and who knows maybe we'll squeak of a victory some time soon. Go Raptors Go.

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    also, no one is drooling over val or ross today


    the anger is focused, elsewhere

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    I just hate the clippers. Dancing like a bunch of idiots whenever they get a chance. It's like they try to one up each other's reaction to get camera time. Pathetic. And yes coaching in the 4th was an issue. So was not making any open looks.

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    His coaching was good enough in the 3OT against pops, it was good for 3 quarters against the clippers, but suddenly its casey alone that losses it. (with a team whose starters are questionable if they were competing for jobs on the clippers)


    I see threads on how dumb casey is for benching val and tross, and today how dumb he is for not playing kleiza... I don't think he can win. With this squad you are bound to fail in a given quarter. Frankly, I am surprised we have been as close as we have with so many quality opponents. (maybe that is a credit to his coaching considering our team has no sparkly assets)
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    I am not sure it is the coaching at all. I think that BC loves the run and gun offense, and told Casey that he needs more offense and that should be done at the expense of the defense that was taking hold. Take a look at the video of him on Raptors.com with Devlin and Armstrong.

    Derozen misses a steal leading to an easy open shot, then at the other end Lowry dribbles himself into a jam and throws the ball away for a Clippers slam. Sound a bit like the season. And then blame the troubles on the fact you have a 20 year old centre? Whose fault is it that he is not coming off the bench. Maybe if he would have not kept trying to get new point guards, and actually tried to get a centre, we would be better off.

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