I gave Hollinger lots of shit. I have to admit, he was right, I was wrong. Now, I still think he has taken every opportunity to stick it to Toronto but given the results you can't blame him.
Still don't think his comments on draft night were warranted though.
"Championships are what we live for, now lets go win them."Tim Leiweke
Damn! I dont get this teams' love affair with Bargnani!? The man is struggling big time! If BC doesnt wanna trade him, make Casey bench the guy for f@cks sake! 7 years of "hoping" is too damn long. Make him the 6th - 7th man, if he's hot, ride him if not, go back to the bench. Theres other players that DESERVE the playing time like Ed. The whole organization knows what the problem, why are they too damn proud to admit it.
This is the quote from the article that got me the most upset. They always say they'll go with the unit that will give them the best chance to win. Considering that management and the coaches know that the Bargnani-Valanciunas pairing is detrimental to the team and still haven't shaken things up really pisses me off. I love Jonas, but get him the hell away from Bargnani.Consider that the Bargnani-Valanciunas frontcourt tandem has been shredded for 109.5 points per 100 possessions, according to NBA.com's advanced stats tool, while playing more than a third of the Raptors' minutes this season.
Consider further that the Davis-Johnson tandem that backs them up has allowed just 98.1 as a unit, which would lead the league in defensive efficiency. As you might expect, the Bargnani-Johnson duo (105.1) falls right in the middle. (Davis-Valanciunas does not, at 109.0, but in just 71 minutes.)
Consider further that the Davis-Johnson tandem that backs them up has allowed just 98.1 as a unit, which would lead the league in defensive efficiency.
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"When Life gives you lemons, you clone those Lemons to make super lemons!"
Consider that the Bargnani-Valanciunas frontcourt tandem has been shredded for 109.5 points per 100 possessions, according to NBA.com's advanced stats tool, while playing more than a third of the Raptors' minutes this season.
The above also points out that playing Val will not make us contend for the playoffs. Those screaming for increased minutes to Val, should not be crying when we get blown out.
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Imo, it is sad that you can cheer for someone (as you stated in your first post) who looks like he lacks the motivation when the cards were stacked in his favor to be good. (basically a loser's mentality)
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This article feels good, because our local raptor media would never do this sort of indepth analysis.
they would be too worried that they would piss off the raptors, holinger does not give a fuck, if it quacks like a duck its a duck
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“I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.”
― Oscar Wilde
Although I agree that perhaps Bargs needs a change of scenery, he is not the only problem with how our team is performing.
Lowry is not, so far at least, proving to be the "saviour" everyone thought he was (Jose should be starting...at least for now IMHO), Fields has not contributed (no real surprise there) and Jonas is going to need time (although he looks to be a special player).
On the other hand, I have been impressed with DD's work and attitude this year and Ed Davis has been terrific (he definitely deserves more burn, maybe not starting...but more PT).
Alan Anderson has been solid as has Amir. The rest of the team, especially AB, have been disappointing.
So long story short, should Bargs go? Probably, but there are more players than him needing a reality check.
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