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    Default Teammates heavily criticized Bargnani in team meeting

    Then there is Andrea Bargnani, Torontoís windy avatar of dissatisfaction. According to sources, the team meeting following the 131-99 loss in Utah involved heavy criticism of Bargnani from his teammates, with some also directed towards point guard Lowry for overly self-centred play. But Bargnani, as always, was the focus.

    Anybody can see why. He is back to being his own disinterested self, hoisting jumpers and standing straight-legged. Nobody has ever been able to reach him in his seven-year career; not Colangelo, not his coaches, not his teammates. Last season he was half-involved; this season he has melted back into his unformed puddle of untapped talent. He is grabbing the lowest percentage of available rebounds, 7.6%, of his career. Itís the worst basketball he has played since his disastrous sophomore season. He is finally being shopped, which means even Colangelo is giving up the ghost. But right now, there are no takers.

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...er-crossroads/

    THIS GUY NEEDS TO GET TRADED NOOOOOWWWWWWWW

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    Quote why_you_mad_tho wrote: View Post
    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...er-crossroads/

    THIS GUY NEEDS TO GET TRADED NOOOOOWWWWWWWW
    thank you for posting. A week back I made a somewhat inappropriate thread, because there was little evidence to back up that bargnani's teammates were unsatisfied with his play and it could certainly be called hate mongering, I feel a little vindicated now...
    Last edited by akashsingh; Tue Dec 11th, 2012 at 09:28 PM.

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    It's a question of buyers, really. With his current contract, and all these reports coming out, who in their right mind would take him? Look to next year, I say. Some of the guys haven't been so bad this year; Demar and Ed have really improved, as well as Lowry coming in and beasting. Play the youth, and look to the 2013 free agency/2014 draft. With Jose's contract ending, I'm not averse to amnestying Bargs at seasons end if we can't find a buyer. That'll give us big money to play with, and hopefully we go for a star to join our improving cast.
    Oh, and to make this post RR credible, #fireBC

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    Quote swingman wrote: View Post
    It's a question of buyers, really. With his current contract, and all these reports coming out, who in their right mind would take him? Look to next year, I say. Some of the guys haven't been so bad this year; Demar and Ed have really improved, as well as Lowry coming in and beasting. Play the youth, and look to the 2013 free agency/2014 draft. With Jose's contract ending, I'm not averse to amnestying Bargs at seasons end if we can't find a buyer. That'll give us big money to play with, and hopefully we go for a star to join our improving cast.
    Oh, and to make this post RR credible, #fireBC
    This is exactly what I was thinking yesterday. We'd likely have to take on a shitty contract or end might up getting no real value in return for #7 via trade. Amnesty might be the best option they have, unless of course BC is still giving away $6M contracts to middling bench players.

    Having BC in this lame duck situation right now could be very detrimental to the team. He's in a real hole right now and will probably make some sort of "big" move to fuck up our future. Whatever that may be... a la Rob Babcock.
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    Good post. Glad to hear Bargnani is being held accountable and that he's still shit and should be traded.

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    Don't forget about Lowry guys.

    Quote from Ryan Wolstat:

    "Players yelling at Bargnani and Lowry in the meeting seems about right. Been saying for a while coddling of Bargnani grated on teammates"
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Don't forget about Lowry guys.

    Quote from Ryan Wolstat:

    "Players yelling at Bargnani and Lowry in the meeting seems about right. Been saying for a while coddling of Bargnani grated on teammates"
    Lowry is playing hard and will be able to adjust to the criticism..Lowry shows he cares. AB doesnt care and they all know it. Players see that AB is not held accountable and they get discouraged. AB being 'out indefinetly' may improve overall team morale.

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    "involved heavy criticism of Bargnani from his teammates, with some also directed towards point guard Lowry for overly self-centred play."

    here's how it went:

    everyone: you fucking suck

    bargs: yeah well, kyle's a ball hog.

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    Quote akashsingh wrote: View Post
    "involved heavy criticism of Bargnani from his teammates, with some also directed towards point guard Lowry for overly self-centred play."

    here's how it went:

    everyone: you fucking suck

    bargs: yeah well, kyle's a ball hog.
    Ahahaha, I can totally imagine him just mumbling that with everyone staring at him.

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    Quote swingman wrote: View Post
    Ahahaha, I can totally imagine him just mumbling that with everyone staring at him.
    don't get me wrong, kyle deserves flack for his questionable decision making, I am just making a joke.

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    Quote akashsingh wrote: View Post
    don't get me wrong, kyle deserves flack for his questionable decision making, I am just making a joke.
    I know, it just seemed like quickly deflecting any criticism would be exactly how he would act.

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    He(Bargnani) clearly doesnt give a shit. He's not gonna be reached by being called out.

    I suggest sarcasm. If I was on the team, I'd be like "hey,good job out there. You got like 1 rebound, tonight. Way to go!"

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    What can we do to motivate a guy who makes 10 million a year regardless of performance? He may play well in his contract year or maybe he'll just retire.

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    Quote akashsingh wrote: View Post
    "involved heavy criticism of Bargnani from his teammates, with some also directed towards point guard Lowry for overly self-centred play."

    here's how it went:

    everyone: you fucking suck

    bargs: yeah well, kyle's a ball hog.
    Nah I don't imagine Bargnani did much complaining. He probably just sat in the corner eating primo while taking all the hate.

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    Not to divert the attention away from Bargnani but do you get the feeling that the part about Calderon is less investigative journalism of breaking news and more a concept just rehashed from the off season (ie they don't really give a time line for this thought)

    "The Lakers have been reported as a possible destination for Bargnani as part of a possible deal involving forward Pau Gasol, but the big man is up for discussion in any and all trade talks so long as the potential pieces coming Toronto's are good enough that they could help right this ship. Point guard Jose Calderon has made it clear that he would like to be traded, and Colangelo continues to explore the possibilities there as well. A Raptors trade of some significance, more than likely, is on the horizon."

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-seat/1759593/

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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    Not to divert the attention away from Bargnani but do you get the feeling that the part about Calderon is less investigative journalism of breaking news and more a concept just rehashed from the off season (ie they don't really give a time line for this thought)

    "The Lakers have been reported as a possible destination for Bargnani as part of a possible deal involving forward Pau Gasol, but the big man is up for discussion in any and all trade talks so long as the potential pieces coming Toronto's are good enough that they could help right this ship. Point guard Jose Calderon has made it clear that he would like to be traded, and Colangelo continues to explore the possibilities there as well. A Raptors trade of some significance, more than likely, is on the horizon."

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-seat/1759593/
    Or the Lakers may try to keep Gasol, and just trade for Calderon whom Pau is very familiar with playing for their national team. Calderon would work well with the Lakers while Nash is healing and is already use to coming off the bench once Nash is healthy. Wouldn't mind a first round pick as part of a package from the Lakers for JC...especially the way they've been playing so far.

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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    Or the Lakers may try to keep Gasol, and just trade for Calderon whom Pau is very familiar with playing for their national team. Calderon would work well with the Lakers while Nash is healing and is already use to coming off the bench once Nash is healthy. Wouldn't mind a first round pick as part of a package from the Lakers for JC...especially the way they've been playing so far.
    Problem is the Lakers have nothing that should interest Toronto - not even draft picks.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Problem is the Lakers have nothing that should interest Toronto - not even draft picks.
    Good point

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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    This is exactly what I was thinking yesterday. We'd likely have to take on a shitty contract or end might up getting no real value in return for #7 via trade. Amnesty might be the best option they have, unless of course BC is still giving away $6M contracts to middling bench players.

    Having BC in this lame duck situation right now could be very detrimental to the team. He's in a real hole right now and will probably make some sort of "big" move to fuck up our future. Whatever that may be... a la Rob Babcock.
    +1 I was going to create a thread about amnestying him in the offseason but I felt it was premature. The raptors have absolutely no cap space to improve next season. If raptors don't trade or amnesty Bargnani it'll be close to impossible to improve.

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    Does anybody else find it really hard to bash on Bargnani because he's an introvert? Sometimes I wish he was more of a douche so I could hate him without the guilt.

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