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    Default Ed Davis a top ten power forward?

    From Tim Chrisolm

    Did you know that Ed Davis was leading the Toronto Raptors in PER? After spending two seasons hovering around the league average, Davis has jumped up to a 20.8 rating early this season, and that has put him in the top-ten amongst NBA power forwards. That means that Davis has a higher Player Efficiency Rating than Kevin Garnett, Zach Randolph, Paul Millsap, Kevin Love and Serge Ibaka - the next five guys on the list.
    http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/tim_chisholm/?id=411593

    He goes on to point out the limited minutes and how Ed needs to prove himself in heavy minutes now but it is a pretty good stat. More evidence pointing to Ed Davis as the future of the Raps at power forward.
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    Regardless of this with exteneded Minutes Ed Davis should be a double double guy for us most nights which is just awesome. What more is there to say but LET ED PLAY!

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    Who cares?? Bargnani is our guy!!
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    Who cares?? Bargnani is our guy!!
    Sarcasm?

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    A 13th overall pick gone terribly right.

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    A player that by all accounts was almost moved.

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    Yeah, right....we'll see how he does with starter minutes. Hopefully he thrives, I'll just be happy if he averages 10 and 10. I don't know if that makes him a top 10 PF, but really it just makes him above average PF statistically. Ed still makes some mistakes, and he's also still way too small to play his game, which is all around the basket, for 82 games as a starter. But if he plays decently, and learns what it'll take for him to reach a higher level, it could pay off big time next season...if he's still here.

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    Hoping Ed takes the opportunity and runs with it. That being said the names that are mentioned after him takes the whole top 10 PF out of the equation. If Ed plays hard and is focused night in and night out that's enough for me. Consistency is what has plagued this franchise.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Yeah, right....we'll see how he does with starter minutes. Hopefully he thrives, I'll just be happy if he averages 10 and 10. I don't know if that makes him a top 10 PF, but really it just makes him above average PF statistically. Ed still makes some mistakes, and he's also still way too small to play his game, which is all around the basket, for 82 games as a starter. But if he plays decently, and learns what it'll take for him to reach a higher level, it could pay off big time next season...if he's still here.
    wow, finally a bright spot on the team and you are taking that away from up fans looking for something to cheer for! Good one!

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    Quote Stahmenah_Vybz wrote: View Post
    wow, finally a bright spot on the team and you are taking that away from up fans looking for something to cheer for! Good one!
    What bright spot? His high PER in limited minutes? I'll get excited if he's got that PER playing 35 mpg, and, you know, maybe if we win a couple of games. He's more consistent this year, and has improved a little bit at some things, but really the only thing you can count on from him nightly is rebounding. Nothing about him says top 10 PF. I'm not trying to be a downer, but people should manage their expectations.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    What bright spot? His high PER in limited minutes? I'll get excited if he's got that PER playing 35 mpg, and, you know, maybe if we win a couple of games. He's more consistent this year, and has improved a little bit at some things, but really the only thing you can count on from him nightly is rebounding. Nothing about him says top 10 PF. I'm not trying to be a downer, but people should manage their expectations.
    PER adjusts for minutes. It's an efficency rating.


    (This is why a lot of people scoff at it, because a lot of players that do well in it, have a hard time staying on the court... wether its fouls or relevency to the team - so that is why it has its problems. It says little about overall impact and quality of minutes. But like any metric, in combination with observation can help a lot diagnosing problems)
    Last edited by BasketballCrush; Thu Dec 13th, 2012 at 10:13 PM.

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    " stats are for losers the final score are for winners "



    does ed look dominate ? seriously stop the nonsense

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    does ed look dominate ?
    Let's hear some independent opinion on this question:



    Yeah, we lost despite his great stats, but that doesn't mean that this was his fault. He deserves more playing time and with some better pieces with him Raptors could be better
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    Only shows how overrated the per stats is. Ed is really improving but the likes of Zach Randolph's is still a lot better

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    No, we should stick with bargnani come hell or high water :P
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    I'm ready for anyone other than Bargnani.

    Good luck, ED.
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    I love Ed Davis, always been a supporter. BUT, I really don't want to trade Amir Johnson either.

    See ya later Primo!

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    Hmm, let me think about this....


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    But seriously, this is the guy many were writing off last year and were willing to trade for other teams' stashed doodoo. PER is also overrated in my opinion.

    His 12 rebounds didn't surprise me at all yesterday. But his offensive game looked a lot better, and his confidence to take those shots was impressive.

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    He has instincts you can't teach. Very accurate around the basket. Lots of guys that don't have the talent start off looking like gariatrics driving to the hoop. The kid makes it look effortless in traffic, with a lot of plays making you scratch your head on how he got his fingers on it.

    A top PF is a PF that can score even though you know the ball is going to him. Bosh was capable of that. Ed Davis is a very productive power forward, but lets see him against starters before we get too excited. Also his consistency has improved this year, would like to make sure its legit.... lets see if he can maintain it.
    Last edited by BasketballCrush; Thu Dec 13th, 2012 at 07:14 PM.

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