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    A really good read, worth the click.... although it doesn't really give any more insight beyond what we've been discussing around here:

    There are roughly three ways to assemble a championship caliber team in the NBA, where one or two players can so easily dictate the course of a franchise. The first -- be a free agent destination for superstars -- isn't really open to the Raptors and won't be at least until they establish themselves as a place where championships are won.

    The second is kind of what the Raptors have been attempting to do: add some decent, if not transcendent talent in the draft (Jonas Valancuinas, Ed Davis, DeMar DeRozan); layer in some quality veterans (Kyle Lowry) and hope that over time and with the right added pieces a solid playoff team emerges. Call it the Indiana Pacers or Milwaukee Bucks approach. It's not easy and requires its share of luck too.

    The last is a complete high-wire act. It might get you across that canyon, but it might send a franchise tumbling. The third option is the 'draft basketball Jesus' approach.

    When it works, it works spectacularly well -- see Cleveland with LeBron or Chicago with Derrick Rose or Oklahoma City with Kevin Durant and on and on.

    The Raptors have never really embraced that route, in part because it involves giving up on an entire season and sometimes more, and Colangelo, whatever his flaws may be, can't stand the prospect of just such a thing.

    But circumstances change and opportunities present themselves accordingly.

    There is a kid named Andrew Wiggins who will be available to be drafted in June of 2014. There are people who make a living evaluating basketball talent who feel that the 6-foot-7 live wire is as gifted an NBA prospect as has emerged in the past decade. A franchise-changing player, in other words: A saviour.

    On a rational level, it's crazy talk. The kid is a kid. Being talented is a long way from being able to lift a franchise. They call it the draft lottery for a reason -- the balls don't always bounce the way they should.

    But.


    http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2...aptors_future/


    I go option 3 and it isn't about Wiggins. Other 2 routes have been spectacular failures.

    Blow it up!

    Embrace what has not been done before. Get as many picks over the next 3 years as possible. Then go option 1 in 2015.

    Just my opinion.
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    In their pursuit not to waste a year tanking, they have wasted 4 seasons.....

    Thing is about the other two approaches:

    - The free agent route is hard to do without tanking cause you need to clear a tonne of cap room (e.g. Miami the two years before Lebron and Bosh). PLus, even then, none of that is possible without them already having Wade, who they got by TANKING. The Celts were exactly, exactly the same.

    - Memphis is the best current example of the second approach but they were terrible for years and years and a bunch of the "decent/good but not great" players they have were lottery picks (Gay, Conley).

    Thing is, all sports teams go through cycles. I am old enough to remember when everyone wanted out of Dallas and no black player would sign as a free agent in Boston. Heck, the only team in the NBA that has been consistently excellent in the last 30 years that I can name offhand has been the Lakers.

    Colangelo's approach of doing everything half-assed doesn't work. You are either winning or losing with the compensation of high draft and developing young players. You can't do both.

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    If we're in the lottery, I won't tolerate anything else than getting the first pick. If Cleveland and Chicago can get their homeboy just like that, give us ours.

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    We know why it's called the lottery right? This is lunacy to suggest that this franchise can ride this funk for two more years - in the hopes of MAYBE landing Wiggins. Crazy!
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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    In their pursuit not to waste a year tanking, they have wasted 4 seasons.....

    Thing is about the other two approaches:

    - The free agent route is hard to do without tanking cause you need to clear a tonne of cap room (e.g. Miami the two years before Lebron and Bosh). PLus, even then, none of that is possible without them already having Wade, who they got by TANKING. The Celts were exactly, exactly the same.

    - Memphis is the best current example of the second approach but they were terrible for years and years and a bunch of the "decent/good but not great" players they have were lottery picks (Gay, Conley).

    Thing is, all sports teams go through cycles. I am old enough to remember when everyone wanted out of Dallas and no black player would sign as a free agent in Boston. Heck, the only team in the NBA that has been consistently excellent in the last 30 years that I can name offhand has been the Lakers.

    Colangelo's approach of doing everything half-assed doesn't work. You are either winning or losing with the compensation of high draft and developing young players. You can't do both.
    I'd add Memphis tanked when they traded Pau aswell.

    NBA reality is unless you are LA/Dallas/NY and can and will pay your way through your inefficiencies, you have to be bad in order to get good.