Sat Dec 15th, 2012, 11:48 PM
i dont even know why this is a topic.. for everyone that is saying calderon is just as good defensively as lowry and he's better out there for the raptors then lowry your crazy.. you must not have been around to watch this bum try an run our team for the past 6 years, get rid of him and that ridiculous contract and send bargs right with him.. calderon he cant play man to man, he needs his team to help him, he is so slow.. and im tired of watching bargs throw up ridiculous 3's and shooting ridiculous percentages for a power forward.. im actually just tired lol
Sun Dec 16th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Raptors Republic Superstar
This is the truth. I can't believe all the revisionists claiming Jose is superior to Lowry. What was everybody saying through pre-season and in the first 4-5 games? There wasn't any of this Jose love then.
I have been one of Jose's biggest supporters, but Lowry has almost as good a shot from outside, far superior penetration ability, much better defence, much more speed in transition and great passing ability. He got hurt, has been playing through it, and his frustrations with the team have lead to him making some poor decisions in terms of putting the team on his own shoulders, and making some bad gambles for steals to try and turn the tide in different games.
With any luck, watching how the team plays when they are back in "Team" mode will help settle him down. I imagine Casey was whispering in his ear constantly the last couple of games. If Lowry is the player I hope he is, he has paid attention to the game tape the last couple of weeks.
Sun Dec 16th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Lowry has good market value right now. I think Raptors would be wise in trading him and in the process get rid of one of the big contracts. They could probably get back a 1st rounder as well. It just seems to me that the team needs a different point guard for the future.
Sun Dec 16th, 2012, 09:55 AM
Raptors Republic Superstar
I agree.. Other than JV (who I believe is untouchable) I think Lowry is our most valuable asset. We are in no position to compete at least in the next 2-3 years. By the time we are even close to competing, Lowry will have become a UFA (possibly asking for max to stay with Toronto) and will be turning 28-29 (and would have possibly peaked already).
I'm not sure if we need to package him with a guy like Bargnani, but he should be able to get back a nice piece that we can use to build with going forward. Jennings for example is going to be a free agent (restricted, but still).. he has made it known that he would have no problems playing with Toronto (and there would be some good chemistry with him and DeMar). I am not sure if Jennings > Lowry, but he's 3 years younger, and is a guy you can still compete with 3 years from now.
Sun Dec 16th, 2012, 11:21 AM
Raptors Republic Starter
My frame of thought: Trade Lowry along with Bargnani and net us some assets in return (picks, young players, etc.)
Lowry is talented, but he's not the perfect fit for the Raptors at the moment. I think it's best for us to get rid of all the long-term contracts and keep developing for another 2-3 years. When sh!t goes bad, Lowry's the first one out of the door, which says a lot about his character. He wants to win and win badly. Sadly, Toronto's not primed for that.
Jose, I really don't mind leaving on the team since he's an expiring contract. But if there is a deal that nets us an asset for