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    I am pretty sure it was posted on this forum in the dailies. I know it has been around, so letting you know, i don't save these things, but don't be surprised if he signs with a contender for cheap. Like LA. The Rebuild is not a veteran players cup of tea, you always want to leave on a high note, wouldn't be surprised if he wants to be in la with gasol.
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    Let's not focus on if we should/shouldn't trade Calderon and just enjoy a winning streak for once.

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    Oh look, 2 game winning streak, sans Bargnani.

    Coincidence?

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    This was a fun game to watch. Our interior defense was amazing and really kept us in their defensively. Nice production from Anderson off the bench and Jose was phenomenal finding guys moving without the ball.


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    Great game to watch.

    Raps still need talent - don't forget that. But the truly great teams have talent that buys in to the system and believes in their teammates.

    Casey ball is alive and well again.

    Next time Colangelo says anything to Casey, I hope Casey's reply is, "Eat a can of d!ck up, motherf___er." A little crude, sorry, but true nonetheless.

    For anyone doubting #tradeBargnani is not only desirable, it is a necessity.


    Not all love for Casey today though. Biggest issue I've got is the loooooong stetches of strictly jump shots. They need to get some quick rotations of the ball to create opportunities for catch and rips from the weak side or weak side cuts. Getting the ball in the post (either DD or JV/ED/AJ/LK) is also important. Too much "JUMP SHOT".


    Nice to have a winning streak.


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    What % of games missed is considered injury prone? Jose has played in 505 regular season games out of a possible 586 (86%!) in 7 plus seasons as a Raptor plus all that international competition.

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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    What % of games missed is considered injury prone? Jose has played in 505 regular season games out of a possible 586 (86%!) in 7 plus seasons as a Raptor plus all that international competition.
    I did a post last spring or winter talking about his types of injuries being overuse (hamstrings, feet, hip) injuries, the occurrence of the injuries in the NBA season (usually December onwards). Personally, I have no desire to go find the post but here is his injury history and games played per season and people can draw their own conclusions.

    2012/03/20 Missed 5 games (sprained right ankle).
    2012/03/11 Sprained right ankle, day-to-day.
    2011/04/13 Missed the last 4 games of the regular season (strained left hamstring).
    2011/04/08 Strained left hamstring, day-to-day.
    2011/04/06 Missed 3 games (strained left hamstring).
    2011/04/02 Strained left hamstring, day-to-day.
    2011/01/26 Missed 1 game (ankle injury).
    2011/01/24 Ankle injury, day-to-day.
    2011/01/05 Missed 1 game (sprained right ankle).
    2011/01/04 Sprained right ankle, day-to-day.
    2010/12/31 Missed 1 game (ankle injury).
    2010/12/28 Ankle injury, day-to-day.
    2010/12/17 Missed 4 games (sore left foot).
    2010/12/10 Sore left foot, day-to-day.
    2010/03/05 Missed 1 game (lacerated elbow).
    2010/03/01 Lacerated elbow, day-to-day.
    2010/02/07 Missed 1 game (sprained right ankle).
    2010/02/03 Sprained right ankle, day-to-day.
    2010/01/06 Missed 10 games (hip injury).
    2009/12/13 Hip injury, sidelined indefinitely.
    2009/12/11 Missed 2 games (hip injury).
    2009/12/08 Hip injury, day-to-day.
    2009/02/18 Missed 1 game (hamstring).
    2009/02/11 Hamstring, day-to-day.
    2009/02/06 Missed 1 game (hamstring).
    2009/02/04 Hamstring, day-to-day.
    2009/01/23 Missed 6 games (hamstring).
    2009/01/12 Hamstring, day-to-day.
    2009/01/11 Missed 4 games (hamstring).
    2009/01/04 Hamstring, day-to-day.
    2008/11/19 Missed 2 games (hamstring).
    2008/11/16 Hamstring, day-to-day.
    2008/07/09 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Toronto Raptors.
    2008/06/20 Qualifying offer extended by the Toronto Raptors.
    2007/03/23 Missed 3 games (left ankle injury).
    2007/03/16 Left ankle injury, day-to-day.
    2006/12/22 Missed 2 games (back injury).
    2006/12/19 Back injury, sidelined indefinitely.
    2006/03/31 Missed 9 games (achilles tendon).
    2006/03/15 Achilles tendon, day-to-day.
    2005/12/21 Missed 2 games (heel injury).
    2005/12/18 Heel injury, day-to-day.

    2012-13 Toronto NBA 24 9
    2011-12 Toronto NBA 53 53 (66 games)
    2010-11 Toronto NBA 68 55
    2009-10 Toronto NBA 68 39
    2008-09 Toronto NBA 68 68
    2007-08 Toronto NBA 82 56
    2006-07 Toronto NBA 77 11
    2005-06 Toronto NBA 64 11
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    Some notable 2005 NBA rookies and the number of regular season games played.

    Raymond Felton 557
    Jarrett Jack 556
    Deron Williams 529
    David Lee 525
    Danny Granger 510
    Marvin Williams 509
    Hakim Warrick 508
    Chris Paul 508
    Jose Calderon 505
    Channing Frye 500
    Louis Williams 476
    Jason Maxiell 470
    Nate Robinson 470
    Charlie Villanueva 457
    Monta Ellis 456
    Francisco Garcia 434
    Martell Webster 414
    Andrew Bogut 412
    Andrew Bynum 392

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    comment from clutchfans forumas (Rockets).
    Dwane Casey tried everything he could to lose this game, but in the end he was not able to defend his title as the worst coach in the NBA.

    The Rockets were able to make a run at the end of 1st when Ed Davis went to the bench and Linus "Airball for Jesus" Kleiza was in to chuck clankers, then Casey sat Davis in the 4th to almost allow a Rockets comeback.

    How did Davis lose his crown? Far inferior gameplan from McHale. Everybody and his dog know that Calderon can't even defend a newborn kitten on the PnR, so what does McHale do? Have his PGs bring the ball up the court then pass it off. No screen for his PGs until halfway through the 3rd with one, then a ways later another. That should have been an integral part of the gameplay from the 1st quarter to the end of the game. I don't give a rat's ass if it's PnR with Uglas. Finally saw a little bit of Asik-Uglas PnR in the 4th, then nothing. Also when there were finally a couple of high screens for the PGs halfway through the 3rd, why in the nine hells would you use Davis' man for the screen!?!? Where the #$@* was the scouting report!?!?

    Then there is the complete and utter lack of recognition. Ed Davis was not there for the big stretch in the 4th. Yeah your inside game was wrecked against Davis through the first three quarters except for the stretch near the end of 1st when he was out, but he was out again in the 4th thanks to Casey. Go back to attacking the paint, you dolt! Good god, I don't think I have screamed as much at my computer since watching Carl Landry being coached by Paul Westphal. Still can't believe PnR the living crud out of Calderon wasn't front and center in the gameplan with Lowry out. If anything they deliberately went away from picks for their PGs. There were more picks set for the PG in other games. In the one game it will work especially well they deliberately go away from it? Is there a standing tanking order? ***.

    Well, congratulations, Kevin McHale, you have now taken over Dwane Casey's crown. Enjoy it while you still have a job.
    Was I the only one, who almost didn't understood anything?
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    Lol that makes raptor fans look like geniuses

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Great game to watch.

    Raps still need talent - don't forget that. But the truly great teams have talent that buys in to the system and believes in their teammates.

    Casey ball is alive and well again.

    Next time Colangelo says anything to Casey, I hope Casey's reply is, "Eat a can of d!ck up, motherf___er." A little crude, sorry, but true nonetheless.

    For anyone doubting #tradeBargnani is not only desirable, it is a necessity.


    Not all love for Casey today though. Biggest issue I've got is the loooooong stetches of strictly jump shots. They need to get some quick rotations of the ball to create opportunities for catch and rips from the weak side or weak side cuts. Getting the ball in the post (either DD or JV/ED/AJ/LK) is also important. Too much "JUMP SHOT".


    Nice to have a winning streak.


    Buzz kill time: season is still lost for playoffs. Accumulate draft picks and play the yoot!
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    Quote imperial wrote: View Post
    oh look, 2 game winning streak, sans bargnani.

    Coincidence?
    not.

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    Quote Sig wrote: View Post
    Here's a crazy idea. Why not just keep Jose?
    Because he cannot defend. Teams that run pick and roll at him expose him all day long.

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    but without bargs the interior d can make up for it. pretty obvious he makes everyone on the team better and caseys shitty offence needs a guy that can call the shots

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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    What % of games missed is considered injury prone? Jose has played in 505 regular season games out of a possible 586 (86%!) in 7 plus seasons as a Raptor plus all that international competition.
    I still think 86 is pretty bad. 1 out of every 8 times your team plays Jose isn't playing. And that trend over 7 years is what makes him injury prone.

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    Quote tucas wrote: View Post
    I still think 86 is pretty bad. 1 out of every 8 times your team plays Jose isn't playing. And that trend over 7 years is what makes him injury prone.
    What about Kyle Lowry then? He's played in 375 games in 6+ seasons compared with Calderon's 505 games in 7+ seasons. Even if KL's first season in which he only played 10 games is discounted, he has played in 365 games out of 491 since his second season in which he played every game. That's 74%.

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    Quote tucas wrote: View Post
    I still think 86 is pretty bad. 1 out of every 8 times your team plays Jose isn't playing. And that trend over 7 years is what makes him injury prone.
    If you base it on the last three full seasons it is closer to 1 out of every 6 games.
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    Quote stretch wrote: View Post
    What about Kyle Lowry then? He's played in 375 games in 6+ seasons compared with Calderon's 505 games in 7+ seasons. Even if KL's first season in which he only played 10 games is discounted, he has played in 365 games out of 491 since his second season in which he played every game. That's 74%.
    How much time did he miss last season with his virus though? It would've been at least a month of no play and I wouldn't consider an illness an injury.

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    Because he cannot defend. Teams that run pick and roll at him expose him all day long.
    Thats not true. Houston was running pick n roll with Lin and Asik to start the game and Eddy Davis just broke the play up and got us run out opportunities.

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