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    Here's an interview with Sam Mitchell where he explains that he could not coach Bargnani the way he coached his other players, ie. he could not be a hard ass on him. This is all the proof I need to conclude that this organization needs to change from the top up.

    http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/tim-s...ry-2---2pm.mp3

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    fast forward to if you want miss the puck talk, 15:50

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    fast forward to 15:50 if you want miss the puck talk

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    "..Andrea can block shots and rebound if he wants to..."

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    Andrea can suck cocks and is knee-bound when he wants to...

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    hahahahaha

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    Quote Rap Attack wrote: View Post
    This is all the proof I need to conclude that this organization needs to change from the top
    Bingo

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    Confirmation of stuff that we all suspected. Mitchell had his issues with X's and O's, but he knew how to handle Bargnani and wasn't allowed to because of the high pick/reputations being on the line.

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    Not surprising .. I think we all knew that Smitchs firing was related to his inability to handle AB the way he wanted to. None the less ..a great listen .. hes always entertaining. Thats one of his issues though if Smith always thinks hes the smartest / funniest guy in teh room, which rubs some people the wrong way.

    I also liked his recounting of the draft and how, even in hindsight AB was the right pick. I wish people would stfu once and for all about we should have drafted Rudy Gay ..

    However, I also think its worth noting that BC's meddling even back then was more about how smitch treated AB as opposed to guaranteed minutes etc. I have to image all of that is gone now was things have changed DRAMATICALLY since then, as the thesis then was "this guy needs a chance to show his talent" and now hes had his chance many times over ..

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    It's disappointing to hear but it doesn't really change my opinion on the Colangelo/Bargnani dynamic, since I already figured something like this was true.

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    Just to play devil's advocate:

    Could any part of this be Mitchell jumping on the blame Bargnani bandwagon to make himself look better? Sam has had difficulty getting back in the league. Spent 1 year as an assistant coach with the Nets before being replaced by PJ last season.

    I don't doubt what he is saying but I question the motives.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Just to play devil's advocate:

    Could any part of this be Mitchell jumping on the blame Bargnani bandwagon to make himself look better? Sam has had difficulty getting back in the league. Spent 1 year as an assistant coach with the Nets before being replaced by PJ last season.

    I don't doubt what he is saying but I question the motives.

    Not sure that making your old GM look like a schmuck is the best way to land a new coaching gig..

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    Quote pcrombeen wrote: View Post
    Not sure that making your old GM look like a schmuck is the best way to land a new coaching gig..
    Good point but saying nothing about the situation does not appear to have helped him either - lol.
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    Quote pcrombeen wrote: View Post
    Not sure that making your old GM look like a schmuck is the best way to land a new coaching gig..
    Sometimes you need to call a spade a spade.

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    Possibly, but for all his southern drawl, I never heard the man say a bad word about anybody. Even in that interview I got the feeling Sam was giving Andrea more credit for who he can be, rather than blaming anyone.

    Also, the story jives, at the time that WAS the criticism against him. He was being too hard on him, unforgiving, giving him the silent treatment.

    Not saying Sam handled it right, but I feel comfortable giving him the benefit of the doubt. As for coaching gigs, they are not easy took a long time and a championship team for Casey to get another kick at the bucket.

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    (also not easy for a coach to score a tv gig)

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    from the top up?

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    top down*

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    Vince Carter got into a wrestling match with Sam, it was not the other way around. Carter slammed sam on the massage table, after Sam asked him about his heart and disintrested style of play.


    I am glad he asked, but, it seems a lot of you would jsut given Andrea and Carter a pass.

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    Vince Carter got into a wrestling match with Sam, it was not the other way around. Carter slammed sam on the massage table, after Sam asked him about his heart and disintrested style of play.


    I am glad he asked, but, it seems a lot of you would jsut have given Andrea and Carter a pass.


    This altrication became public, because Sam mentioned it. Said he wished he saw that sort of heart on the court instead of the trainning room.

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