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    Quote yertu damkule wrote: View Post
    that particular quote has been around for quite a while, and (unless i'm mistaken) isn't credited to any one individual. smitch may have said it...but so have countless others (and it's in jack armstrong's contract that he say it at least 3 times/broadcast).
    I remember it as being Smitch's go-to, and I remember hearing him say without irony. And after watching years of brutal offence in which every play was 'horns up', it really did seem like his philosophy.

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    BTW, both Carter and Sam walked away from altrication without incident and Carter a week later said he was willing to do whatever the coach expected of him. However, Babcock had diffrent plans.


    These incidents happen quite a bit behind the scenes, without fans knowing about it. Like the time Morise Petterson and Andrea got into fist fight in the weightroom due to rookie and vet hostillities. This is why Morris Petterson found his way out of town even though a lot of you still have him as your favourite player.

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    Quote BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    BTW, both Carter and Sam walked away from altrication without incident and Carter a week later said he was willing to do whatever the coach expected of him. However, Babcock had diffrent plans.


    These incidents happen quite a bit behind the scenes, without fans knowing about it. Like the time Morise Petterson and Andrea got into fist fight in the weightroom due to rookie and vet hostillities. This is why Morris Petterson found his way out of town even though a lot of you still have him as your favourite player.
    Are you sure? I am not questioning what you said. I just never knew about this incident involving Mo Pete and Andrea. It makes sense. And of course I would choose Mo Pete to stay over Bargnani.

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    There was a game early in the season, or preseason that year when both took the floor with shiners. Something was alluded by the announcers that practice somtimes gets physcial.

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    they also said andrea was a stuborn rookie and could hold his own against anyone - but i heard behind the scenes they went at it

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    I know I can't be the only one that heard this. Someone should be able to confirm it. Teams dont usually let fisticuffs make headliens and the reporters dont report on personal stuff out of respect, this kind of stuff happens a lot more frequently than people expect, boys will be boys.. I heard Bryan was pissed and that is why Mo was in the doghouse and on the trading block. I am fairly sure there was thread about it back in the day.

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    Not sure that making your old GM look like a schmuck is the best way to land a new coaching gig..
    Good point but saying nothing about the situation does not appear to have helped him either - lol.
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    Quote BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
    I know I can't be the only one that heard this. Someone should be able to confirm it. Teams dont usually let fisticuffs make headliens and the reporters dont report on personal stuff out of respect, this kind of stuff happens a lot more frequently than people expect, boys will be boys.. I heard Bryan was pissed and that is why Mo was in the doghouse and on the trading block. I am fairly sure there was thread about it back in the day.

    Dont want to say you're wrong but honestly I hadn't heard of anything between the two of them. Probably because like you said it was mentioned during the broadcast and not much was made of it. However I dont recall an article or anyone going on the record about it.

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    I never read about it either, tried asking someone who would know and never got a satisfactory answer about it either way. Maybe its a raptor urban legend. However, I do remember both with shiners, so at the time the story made sense to me, and I sort of rationalized mo petes isolation that year by that incident.

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    Also, the way the story broke to me was some dude posted before hand on a message board that there was an incident in the weight room and two players would be sporting shiners. Next game, my jaw dropped as both andrea and mopete were sporting shiners. So I thought it was something that was kept under wraps.

    Even the massage room incident with Carter, did not make the rounds till Carter's mom said she overheard Sam say that Carter sure had a lot of heart when he slammed on the message table, so she is the one that blew the whistle to the papers. Carter and Sam kept it between themselves.

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    I have heard about the Mo Pete/Bargnani thing too. I just dont know how true it is. Cant remember how i heard it initially but I do remember the broadcast in which they mentioned it.

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    Yahoo writes about the smitch - bargs topic. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...2101--nba.html

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    Quote pcrombeen wrote: View Post
    Not sure that making your old GM look like a schmuck is the best way to land a new coaching gig..
    Sometimes you need to call a spade a spade.

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    If Mitchell were to score another head coaching gig he would have done it by now. He's won a COY and I've never once heard his name bandied about in any legitimate rumors about coaching vacancies. The reality is he'll probably never be a coach again.

    With comments like this though, he's providing a disservice to the Toronto Raptors because it further lowers Bargnani's trade value. While I don't doubt the truth to anything he's said, but these comments are like he's burned bridges and then decided to throw in a grenade just in case there was any chance of repairing it.

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