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    I'm torn. On the one hand, I like Davis' development, on the other, Gay could thrive here and give us that closer we so desperately need. I wish Demar wasn't signed to his ridiculous contract. I wish Landry wasn't signed to a ridiculous one as well. In that regard, it makes Gay's potential entry into the Raps salary books more palatable.
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    Quote Craiger wrote: View Post
    I think Gay is a good player but trading for him is just adding another handcuff to the treadmill.

    Individually, trading for him is fine. In the macro picture its a waste of time.

    Fire Colangelo now, before he can sacrifice anymore of this teams future. We shouldn't scuttle the ship because the captain is lost. Just throw him overboard.
    My assumption is that the really ugly contracts (like Kleiza, Bargnani, and DeRozan) will be eventually removed if Gay is acquired. Thus, keeping the handcuffs off.
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    Quote Fully wrote: View Post
    This!

    Rudy Gay is overrated and severely overpaid. Getting him at the cost of Davis/Calderon/another piece does not guarantee the Raptors make the playoffs this season or beyond, but it does burn up assets and financial flexibility for the future. And I know this board is mostly pro-Lowry but Calderon has been arguably the team's best player this season and Davis isn't too far behind. Removing them from the line-up will have it's downside too.

    And is anyone concerned at all what this will do from a team chemistry standpoint?
    With Davis and Calderon, does that guarantee them a playoff berth, this season or beyond?
    OK, considering Calderon is arguably the best player this season and Davis is not far behind, what is that currently doing for the team? Are the Raps in the top of the standings? Secured a playoff spot? With Calderon and Davis at the helm? I agree, of course removing them will have a downside, but with them here, its currently not taking the team anywhere, do you agree?

    Again, sure there is chemistry, but where is this chemistry taking the team? Is chemistry taking them to the playoffs? Calderon has been here for 8 years, with 2 playoff appearances. He does bring chemistry to the team but unfortunately it doesnt equal post season.


    Justification:

    If Gay to Toronto doesnt work out:
    2 years and Raps get $20mil in cap space
    1 year he's a tradeable asset as $20mil expiring
    In 2 years, if Ed continues his play, would you be willing to give him a big fat contract? And if what you see now is his ceiling, are you prepared to make him a cornerstone of your franchise moving forward?

    Lowry/Demar/Gay/Bargnani/JV

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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    If we keep Lowry then I'm all for pairing him up with Rudy Gay. It's not the most ideal situation and I know I'm in the blow it up side of things, but since we've pretty much done nothing in the rebuilding department over the past year, we may as well give this one a shot.

    The key here is that the talent level increases.

    A lot of people talk about the treadmill. We aren't even on that thing yet.
    +1.

    When people talk about Atlanta being on the "treadmill of mediocrity", well, at least they make the playoffs year after year, which, if it happened to Toronto, would make