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  • #16
    p00ka wrote: View Post
    Centres on 2 things? For some reason I thought you were one of the posters on here that exercises a little deeper thought than to simplistically put the early mess all on Casey and Bargnani, but since you went over the edge in your anti-AB campaign, you certainly are a very different mind/poster on here. Maybe you have a point.

    - yeah, AB and Casey are the ones that screwed up and made that brutal schedule,,,, which you actually think is a minor issue?
    - yeah, if only AB and Casey had their act together, Fields wouldn't have needed that surgery, or at least would have come back earlier
    - yeah, AB and Casey must have caused Anderson's injury and forced him to stay out so long
    - yeah, damn AB and Casey caused Lowry to play losing hero ball until they must have injured him, forcing him to miss 13 games.
    - yeah, those two buggers held Jose, and many others, back from playing the game the way they are now. Hell, those guys would have worn their big boy pants a lot earlier if only AB had gone down earlier, no doubt.
    - yeah, I bet in your imagination that all it took for the team to come together was AB going down. If they all had sub 80 IQs and sucked on soothers, that might even be reality.

    The list could go on and on, but suffice to say sorry, but the very ugly start to the season, and recent turnaround, are due to a fk of a lot more than Casey's coaching and AB's play & injury,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, imho.

    PS. Ya know what? I think you're setting yourself up for major disappointment in your certainty of how AB's return is going to play out, but ya likely have another month to ride that happy train.
    Those are the two main issues. Of course there are a host of secondary issues but even the majority of them come back to Casey.

    Why always so angry - main page and here? It is sad to see and certainly doesn't encourage meaningful dialogue.

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    • #17
      Ball movement, ball movement & oh ya..... ball movement.

      Once we moved the ball we grew some balls and Dragon them all over the the doubters in the closing minutes!

      Go Raps! A little confidence can go a Looooooooonnnnng way!

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      • #18
        Everyone is being so friendly and nice, no one wants to talk about the real reason.
        Last edited by BasketballCrush; Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:36 AM.

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        • #19
          BasketballCrush wrote: View Post
          Everyone is being so friendly and nice, no one wants to talk about the real reason.
          Well then spill the beans.... don't leave us hangin' bro.....

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          • #20
            Reasons for Losing - THEN ....... Reasons for Winning - NOW

            Reasons for Losing:

            1) Dysfunctional play - Lowry (new), SF (Nerve-man Fields), Rookie Centre (Important position - too much pressure on JV)
            2) Pace. With Lowry as the PG, the faster pace didn't match the talent properly.
            3) Hate to dismiss what some are saying, but Raps played a very tough schedule
            4) Excessive amt of Road games (10 in November - of 16 game total)
            5) Injuries to key Bench players
            6) Bench Line-up didn't play like they're playing now.
            7) Starting Schedule pace - After 1st game, Raps played 7 games in 11 nights (4 on the road - 3 Western teams)
            8) Casey had some weird line-up combos
            9) Bargnani (Raps 1st scoring option), got off to a rough start.
            10) Domenic McGuire STARTED 9 games in November
            11) 3 Rookies [Jonas, Ross, Acy], 7 New players [Rookies + Lowry, Fields, Lucas, McGuire] plus Pietrus (late November).


            Reasons for Winning (Key points in Bold):

            1) Jose is starting
            2) Schedule has been easier
            3) Lowry is passing better - coming off the Bench (then he did as a Starter)
            4) Bench - 2nd in the League (over Jose stretch). November (14th), December (4th), January (2nd)
            5) Team defense has picked up - simply because players have done it as a TEAM, although 2011-12 Raps were still better.
            6) Back Court Offense - November (19th), December (4th), January (1st)
            5) During the Jose stretch, Raptors have been No. 1 in Pts out of the paint
            6) Opponent 3 point shooting % - November (25th), December (8th), January (1st) - .244
            7) Assists - November (21st), December (11th), January (2nd)

            .

            What are NOT reasons (for Winning):

            1) F/Ta - Raptors actually trended down with January being the lowest total.
            2) 3 Point Shooting (by the Raps) - Marginal increase (< 1.0 made shot)
            3) Opponent Points in the Paint [Defending] - November (18th), December (30th), January (11th) - 5 games

            What are NOT reasons (for Losing):

            1) Any one specific player
            .
            Last edited by RapthoseLeafs; Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:41 AM.

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            • #21
              Its simple. We played a lot of our early games against strong western opponents. If you just look at the games we've played against eastern opponents our record is 8 wins and 8 losses. Obviously other factors combined gave the team a brutal start but I believe this was one of the major reasons why.

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              • #22
                RapthoseLeafs wrote: View Post
                Reasons for Losing:

                1) Dysfunctional play - Lowry (new), SF (Nerve-man Fields), Rookie Centre (Important position - too much pressure on JV)
                2) Pace. With Lowry as the PG, the faster pace didn't match the talent properly.
                3) Hate to dismiss what some are saying, but Raps played a very tough schedule
                4) Excessive amt of Road games (10 in November - of 16 game total)
                5) Injuries to key Bench players
                6) Bench Line-up didn't play like they're playing now.
                7) Starting Schedule pace - After 1st game, Raps played 7 games in 11 nights (4 on the road - 3 Western teams)
                8) Casey had some weird line-up combos
                9) Bargnani (Raps 1st scoring option), got off to a rough start.
                10) Domenic McGuire STARTED 9 games in November
                11) 3 Rookies [Jonas, Ross, Acy], 7 New players [Rookies + Lowry, Fields, Lucas, McGuire] plus Pietrus (late November).


                Reasons for Winning (Key points in Bold):

                1) Jose is starting
                2) Schedule has been easier
                3) Lowry is passing better - coming off the Bench (then he did as a Starter)
                4) Bench - 2nd in the League (over Jose stretch). November (14th), December (4th), January (2nd)
                5) Team defense has picked up - simply because players have done it as a TEAM, although 2011-12 Raps were still better.
                6) Back Court Offense - November (19th), December (4th), January (1st)
                5) During the Jose stretch, Raptors have been No. 1 in Pts out of the paint
                6) Opponent 3 point shooting % - November (25th), December (8th), January (1st) - .244
                7) Assists - November (21st), December (11th), January (2nd)

                .

                What are NOT reasons (for Winning):

                1) F/Ta - Raptors actually trended down with January being the lowest total.
                2) 3 Point Shooting (by the Raps) - Marginal increase (< 1.0 made shot)
                3) Opponent Points in the Paint [Defending] - November (18th), December (30th), January (11th) - 5 games

                What are NOT reasons (for Losing):

                1) Any one specific player

                .
                Yet one specific player is the cause for winning? I see.

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                • #23
                  Matt52 wrote: View Post
                  Yet one specific player is the cause for winning? I see.
                  hmmm, seems he said a LOT more than that, but when someone goes over the edge, I guess it's hard to change the script.

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