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    Not sure if this has been linked yet but it's an ok reality check for the raptors. Chisholm laments that we are in a rut without an elite player (not bad enough for a draft pick, not good enough to make a run in the playoffs). Not sure I totally agree. It's not like we've been in this spot for a while. Lets let this group grow a bit. There's no star coming to us, lets see if the high pick we got when we were worse (jv) might be that player. Might be ok until we have cap space again (whenever that is)

    http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/tim_chisholm/?id=413880

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    With the players we have we are better off emulating the Indiana Pacers or Denver Nuggets. They have no really big star and they can make the playoffs. Are they going to win. No. But that is how this league is. Teams with 1 star don't win either. When you have 2+ stars then we can talk.

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    Quote Pill wrote: View Post
    With the players we have we are better off emulating the Indiana Pacers or Denver Nuggets. They have no really big star and they can make the playoffs. Are they going to win. No. But that is how this league is. Teams with 1 star don't win either. When you have 2+ stars then we can talk.
    I don't fully agree with the not winning part. Dallas won a couple years ago with 1 legit star in Dirk and a real emphasis on team ball and depth.

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    The comments in that article are hilarious:

    yeah, trade bargs and kleiza for picks.


    the article only further solidifies my belief the raptors should take other teamsbshit for prospects and picks.
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    Meh...this is always something the media likes to talk about with mediocre teams.

    Of course, this article also points out to me what is wrong with Toronto sports fans in general: they overvalue talent. I know Chisholm isn't crazy or anything, and he knows what a franchise talent is, so that's why it's funny that none of the players mentioned would actually help us like a franchise player. The only one you could ever make the case for is Pau, who's probably not able to quite shoulder that load. So basically, the Raps can't afford to acquire a franchise talent, and the talents available are pseudo-franchise type players with high price tags. I mean really, we'd be a better team with Paul Millsap or Josh Smith, but it would hardly address our worst issues.

    Stay the course, see if one or two of the young players develop into all-stars, which I think is a real possiblity for JV down the road. As Matt said, see if you can get a couple of extra picks back in trades where you're basically helping a team lose a player or salary (no player that will disrupt what the team is building though), and try to expand your base of young talent so at the very least if you still only develop one or two good players, you have many more to trade and getting even a lesser star talent could make sense for that price later down the road.

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    I completely agree with the article. We've been stuck on this "treadmill" ever since Carter was traded. That's 8 years of insignificant team-building.

    Josh Smith, Rudy Gay or Pau Gasol aren't true "franchise" players, but take any 2 of them and add them to Lowry and Valanciunas, and all of a sudden, we have enough talent that should be capable of securing a top-4 seed.
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