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    Well if this is true. Then i can't see them landing a guy like Cousins or Jefferson. Charlotte dont have any assets to trade for those type of guys unless they're willing to part with MKG(not happening).

    As for Bargnani, i'm pretty sure BC would deal him in a heartbeat for Charlotte's 1st rd pick this year.
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    Could be wrong but I don't think Charlotte can trade us their pick right now; they've traded a protected first-rounder to Chicago.

    Bulls receive the Bobcats' 2013 first-round pick (top 12 protected in 2013, top 10 protected in 2014, top 8 protected in 2015, unprotected in 2016) (Tyrus Thomas trade 02-18-10)


    My understanding is that they can trade this pick on draft-day (basically select who we want and then flip him immediately). However, they do have a couple other assets:

    Bobcats receive the Blazers' 2013 first-round pick (top 12 protected in the 2013, 2014, and 2015, and unprotected in 2016) (Gerald Wallace trade 02-24-11)
    Bobcats receive the Pistons' 2013 first-round pick (top 14 protected in the 2013 draft, top 8 in 2014, top 1 in 2015, and unprotected in 2016) (Gerald Wallace trade 02-24-11)


    I'd take the Detroit pick. Won't be this year, might be a pick in the 8-15 range next year, or else will probably be in the lottery in 2015. As for the salary that they'd throw in, I'd want Gordon or Diop, but would probably take Thomas if that's the only guy they were willing to trade.

    edit: trade information from http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013
    If this is indeed all accurate, I would still take any of these picks.

    Although, I would not take Thomas back. He's the only piece I'd absolutely avoid like cancer from their team. Anything else is open for discussion. Charlotte doesn't need to be a playoff team, but they need more talent. Andrea has talent, and in an area they're lacking. It is also true they lack assets to get a higher calibre player. Andrea would be good enough though, to make them a slightly better team, but most of all take pressure of Kemba for the scoring load now, and pressure off MKG who still needs to develop offensively. We'll see what happens....

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    Gasol banished to the bench for good. What does this mean for Bargs? source
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    Time to 'Mull'(ens) things over!


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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    Gasol banished to the bench for good. What does this mean for Bargs? source
    I don't know, but it certainly seems hard to believe Gasol will be kept. He won't be happy, and the team has no other asset to trade if they want to change things...
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I don't know, but it certainly seems hard to believe Gasol will be kept. He won't be happy, and the team has no other asset to trade if they want to change things...
    Hiring D'Antoni was a mistake. Perfect situation fell into his lap in PHX, but the guy can't coach well at all. If LA turns it around, it will be because the players make it happen, not D'Antoni.
    Yeah totally agree. Seriously I don't like the Lakers but what a waste this season is. The Suns were fun to watch back in the days that's for sure. With a 23 year old Amare Stoudemire, a 30 year old Nash, a 27 year old Marion, Barbosa and all that. But this was not a championship caliber team. I just don't see why they hired Mike D'antoni. I mean put any coach on the bench of a team with Nash, Amare, Marion, Barbosa etc at the peak of their careers, and put the emphasis on the offense and on run and gun play, it will be fun to watch, whoever the coach is. I'm not saying D'antoni can't coach. Just that he is not the coach you want if you want to win the championship, and that's what the Lakers were hoping to do. Gasol is going to be traded that's for sure.

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    Jordan screwed the Raptors before, if he wants a deal he's got to really sweeten the pot from last time.

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    This is some stupid rumor. Why would MJ take another 7ft jump shooter. They already have Mullens, and he actually rebounds.

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    If I was MJ I wouldnt trade if you know your team is trash completely he keeps those picks and should only be trading for more picks while keeping whats worthwhile, Kemba and MKG.

    Good deal for Raps bad deal for Cats

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'd take Gordon easily. He's a bench scorer that can actually....you know....score (no offense Alan Anderson), plus he's a $13 million expiring contract next year (assuming he picks up his player option).

    I just don't trust Jordan's ability to close a deal
    BG is a tweener who is cronichly injured and does not defend Allan Andersen plays a palatable brand of defense there would have to be a draft pick though.
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    Quote charlz wrote: View Post
    BG is a tweener who is cronichly injured and does not defend Allan Andersen plays a palatable brand of defense there would have to be a draft pick though.
    Neither Gordon or Anderson have a part in the Raptors' future. The real transaction is obtaining a pick, and ridding ourselves of Bargnani's contract. Because of this, how Gordon "fits" doesn't concern me. We're a long way from even competing for a playoff berth.
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    If the Bobcats can amnesty Thomas in the off-season, then why would they take on our trash (ie Bargs' contract) and give up a pick in order to move him? This trade is not happening.

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    Quote pcrombeen wrote: View Post
    If the Bobcats can amnesty Thomas in the off-season, then why would they take on our trash (ie Bargs' contract) and give up a pick in order to move him? This trade is not happening.
    i said the same but in reverse LOL why would we take on the bench fodder that is Tyrus just to get a pick in a weak draft..Id prefer to just amnesty Bargs in the summer then take on Tyrus or Ben Gordon

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    Quote DoNDaDDa wrote: View Post
    i said the same but in reverse LOL why would we take on the bench fodder that is Tyrus just to get a pick in a weak draft..Id prefer to just amnesty Bargs in the summer then take on Tyrus or Ben Gordon
    Isn't a pick (even in a weak draft) better than paying Bargnani to go away? After all, one of the weakest drafts in memory still produced LaMarcus Aldridge, Rudy Gay, Rajon Rondo, Paul Millsap, and Kyle Lowry.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Isn't a pick (even in a weak draft) better than paying Bargnani to go away? After all, one of the weakest drafts in memory still produced LaMarcus Aldridge, Rudy Gay, Rajon Rondo, Paul Millsap, and Kyle Lowry.
    im ok with the pick. what im not ok with is taking on another albotross contract that CANT be amnestied to get that pick..

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    about the draft, it's not a weak draft. there's just no clear cut superstars in the sense where so and so is OBVIOUSLY going #1 or #2 or whatever. Hollinger and Stein both have said there's a bunch of great players to be had, just no clear cut order. Stein (i believe?) went so far as to say this is a good draft to have a pick in simply because there will be very good players to pick from even later on.

    which really sucks for us but whatever
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