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I have no idea why AA didnt contest that shot Its mindboggling dude didnt listen to his coach bad awarness all around. You could hear it on the computer Casey "Close Out CLOSE OUT!" AA just stood on the line.... He let Kyrie hit a shot like he was in the gym alone.
And Casey also drew up a full court press for that last shot AA just was on the 3 line, should have pressured Kyrie up the floor why wouldn't you? its hard to make a play under desperation. the game is on AA and Amir.
It's the timing of the play that's at issue. Anderson clearly should have closed when he could see the clock (directly behind Irving) go down to 2 seconds. At that point, you simply close hard without fouling and hope for the best. Irving is not driving at that point. It IS exactly the same as the Jose-Lin play last year, and Jose should have closed out, too. Just a big defensive brain fart by AA that probably cost them the game.
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But I think focusing on the shot so much is silly, and it is avoiding the true issue. It is not Anderson's fault we lost the game. We should not have been in that position. We start the fourth quarter up 9 against a team on a back to back and on the road. We have got to put that game away. This is a huge problem with Casey that was evident last year as well. This team, even last year, had the ability to stick with good teams until that final quarter. Casey needs to fix this. To start the fourth, we need to put our starters out there. Acy, Amir, Ross, Anderson, and Lowry is not the lineup we should be rolling with to start a fourth quarter. Whether its the two pg back court he ran a bit, or the 4 guard line up vs. the Heat, he has not shown that he knows how to coach his guys to finish a game. I like Casey, I really do, but this is a huge problem.
You can talk about how a 30 foot three point shot is an acceptable one to allow, but what is not acceptable is blowing a lead, and then putting the ball in the hands of arguably one of the best closers in the game, and letting him decide whether we win or lose.
what do we expect at this point with the team??? like really
-play tough basketball
- losses are still close (many of the losses could have been wins)
-our team is dealing with significant injuries to 2 of our big men atm
- we have no stars.
the next step for us is we need a legit star on our team. When we get one some of those close games will be wins.
Yes we should have won this game but the Cavs star player triumphed. How many games do the raptors win this year if Irving was our point guard instead of lowry. my guess, we'd already be in the top 8 in the east, set to make the playoffs playoffs
I'm not mad at our Raptors for it, I'm impressed with Kyrie Irving though. He made me a fan with a couple crisp spin moves, his ability to finish in traffic and a heroic 30 ft 3 pointer to win the game by a single point.
to conclude, we need a star... where's our Kyrie Irving?
i read that was Kyrie's 5th game winner already too LOL for a second year player that is impressive!
Last edited by DoNDaDDa; Sun Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:46 PM.
When the he'll is Casey going to see that jose was sharing the ball and getting players in the right spot? To keep him out for that long only to have him come in when the lead is gone is just not cool. Darn you Casey, wake the fuc up man.
This is on you more than anyone else.
AA - 24.99%
Lowry - 23.83%
Ross - 20.68%
Amir - 16.30%
Acy - 15.90%
Total = 101.70%, a touch higher than 100%
Assuming normal spacing for this group (and with Ross and AA on the floor, spacing should be good), everyone should be able to shoot at around the same usage rate they normally do.
Even with Carter it came down to that one shot. It's always going to come down to that shot. This is a mens league, pushing teams around in the 3rd and keeping a double digit lead every game is stuff that dreams are made of. I don't think its realistic.
This is going to be the scenario for a long long time, so might as well get used to it. The Lakers deal with this, OKC deals with this. Teams take them to the last basket all the time, we did and we are the Craptors.
"Could of, should of, would of gets us no where". Now, thats something I have never understood. Its about learning from mistakes. Each loss is a lesson. My concern is that Casey hasn't been able to learn from these fourth quarter losses. In the past 8 games (where the team has gone 2-6), the Raptors have been outscored in the final bracket of play 7 times (the 1 being a tie in the fourth against Brooklyn) for a total of -56 in those brackets. It gets to a point where its not the other team just "making adjustments and going on a run". The Raptors are doing something wrong to allow all these teams to get back into the game, and they need to fix it. I am not saying we should be blowing teams out, but a -56 in final brackets of the past 8 games is absurd to me. They need to change something.
I am all for learning from the past, but this idea that you only blame the coach for the loss in the final minutes is just stupid.
At some point you also need to give him credit for getting into that position to win, but no one ever seems to. They just ride his coat tails to the final seconds, and second guess with the benefit of hindsight.
Some of you guys really think that the coach is the biggest improvment this team can make, LOL. I will bet, that you bring another coach in here, and you will get 70% out of these guys and never even smell the final 2 minutes.
I know its hard to give credit, but its been a long long time, since I have seen this team be so competitive. I like how we play. We are not as talented as the players we play against and its a star driven league. There are some players you CAN'T prepare for.
What we are seeing is that we are good, but just not good enough, that is okay with me... I see the cast we have, and that makes sense to me. A little bit at time, hopefully the more this happens, the more we will learn from the final minutes to close out games in the future. A mistake is a great thing, you get to learn from it.
Last edited by BasketballCrush; Sun Jan 27th, 2013 at 02:12 PM.
Rap of the day candidate?
I think it comes down to coaching. So many games we're up by double digits in the 4th...only to see the opposing team take the momentum from us and eventually the game.
Where is our coach's sense of urgency??
He clearly ICED Demar Derozan and kept Acy and Lowry in the game too long. How can you have 1 starter in the game (Amir) to start the 4th in a close game???
He then put back Jose, Ed and i believe DD with only 4-5 minutes left to go in the game!! Maybe Casey thinks this roster is better than it is (goes back to that depth talk at the beginning of the year).
16 wins 28 losses - That's where we are Casey! Are the Raptors less talented than the Cavs??? Maybe it isnt a talent issue....Its about how you use the talent you have.
Something to keep in mind about rotations. Say what you will about AB and JV but they were our starters. Amir and Ed (more so Ed) have been mostly backups. They have both averaged about 35 minutes a game for the past five games. They have to come out sometime and when they do, it is not just a drop off but a precipitous drop off (gray and acy). We are paper thin up front and you can mask that for a few games but its been a month now. Not an answer but just some perspective.
We should've just fouled and let em have 2. They'd be fucked in OT and we'd blown them out. But again another stupid mistake by the raptors
lol, that is like begging at Kyrie's feet... I don't give freebies in those situations, no AA should of been tighter, if a foul results from that, so be it.
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