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    Default Irving's 3 hurt more than Linsanity's 3 against us.

    What a bad case of deja vu. You know their can shoot and dribble. He challenges Bryant to a one on one and is full of all the confidence in the world, and you don't put pressure from the inbound? Stupid. Very stupid.

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    i saw that coming from a mile away. Dwane Casey making retard decisions again. And AA needs to learn some clock management skills
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    i saw that coming from a mile away. Dwane Casey making retard decisions again. And AA needs to learn some clock management skills
    Same here. Casey pissed me off big time. What the heck is he doing?

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    nah... it felt a like a mosquito bite to me. Grabbed a beer a few minutes later and went on with my life.

    The Carter dagger, was a lot more personal.

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    Like I said in the game thread, I've almost become immune to these late-game letdowns and collapses.
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    Like I said in the game thread, I've almost become immune to these late-game letdowns and collapses.
    Pretty crazy eh?

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    Why are you guys so pissed off at Anderson. He was playing good defense. Had Anderson played to tight at a metre away from the 3 point line, Irving would've drove it down his throat. Anderson respected the Irving drive, and had Irving missed that 3, it would've looked like the stupidest shot. Casey planned for the OT, Scott played for the win. No one got out-coached that last possession, Anderson didn't play bad defense.

    Anderson is one of our best on-ball defenders too...

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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Why are you guys so pissed off at Anderson. He was playing good defense. Had Anderson played to tight at a metre away from the 3 point line, Irving would've drove it down his throat. Anderson respected the Irving drive, and had Irving missed that 3, it would've looked like the stupidest shot. Casey planned for the OT, Scott played for the win. No one got out-coached that last possession, Anderson didn't play bad defense.

    Anderson is one of our best on-ball defenders too...
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    im not mad at that play.. im mad that we let it get to that point and didn't have any killer instinct after controlling the majority of the game

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    im not mad at that play.. im mad that we let it get to that point and didn't have any killer instinct after controlling the majority of the game
    Well, honestly, it was the offense. You can only play defense for so long when the offense doesn't start falling. Calderon continuously ran the pick-&-roll which Cleveland started to play for, and Calderon never adjusted. Plus, bad turnovers in the 4th quarter, and bad shot selection. We lived and died by the 3 last night.

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    better yet, we should have fouled and went for another DeRozan game winner infront of the home crowd.
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    Quote FoxMachine wrote: View Post
    +1

    im not mad at that play.. im mad that we let it get to that point and didn't have any killer instinct after controlling the majority of the game
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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Why are you guys so pissed off at Anderson. He was playing good defense. Had Anderson played to tight at a metre away from the 3 point line, Irving would've drove it down his throat. Anderson respected the Irving drive, and had Irving missed that 3, it would've looked like the stupidest shot. Casey planned for the OT, Scott played for the win. No one got out-coached that last possession, Anderson didn't play bad defense.

    Anderson is one of our best on-ball defenders too...
    Dude AA is a good defender but he made a stupid decision. He should've realized that irving was going to pull up for the 3 and closed him out and let him drive into traffic. They would've been fucked in OT had he scored the 2 points and we would've won, this one was on Casey and AA i'm sorry.
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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Dude AA is a good defender but he made a stupid decision. He should've realized that irving was going to pull up for the 3 and closed him out and let him drive into traffic. They would've been fucked in OT had he scored the 2 points and we would've won, this one was on Casey and AA i'm sorry.
    what makes u think we would have won in OT? I believe we are 1-4 in OT games this year.. and they clearly had the momentum as they outscored us 33-23 in the final quarter

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    what makes u think we would have won in OT? I believe we are 1-4 in OT games this year.. and they clearly had the momentum as they outscored us 33-23 in the final quarter
    Cuz they played a huge game the night before. They'd be gassed and we'd have the upper hand
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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Cuz they played a huge game the night before. They'd be gassed and we'd have the upper hand
    they sure weren't gassed in the 4th.. irving seemed like he woulda taken over if it went to overtime

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    what makes u think we would have won in OT? I believe we are 1-4 in OT games this year.. and they clearly had the momentum as they outscored us 33-23 in the final quarter
    Yes they had the momentum, but as Scott said, they played a very hard game the night before so they were tired.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Dude AA is a good defender but he made a stupid decision. He should've realized that irving was going to pull up for the 3 and closed him out and let him drive into traffic. They would've been fucked in OT had he scored the 2 points and we would've won, this one was on Casey and AA i'm sorry.
    Stupid decision? Kyrie Irving is a metre away from the 3-point line, and quite frankly had damaged Toronto all night with his penetration going to the hoop. If you played Irving straight up - as good as the defender Anderson is - he would've been able to get himself to the hoop. Once the penetration starts, help side and defense starts to rotate, which means passing lanes, driving lanes, etc start to open up. It was clearly a lucky shot. Anderson played him like a good/SMART defender would. Don't reach, stayed down, and as Irving was at near release, Anderson put a hand up, adding pressure to an already very difficult, long ranged shot.

    Had you made Irving drive, there's a possibility they tie for OT, get an easier/wide open jumper from the 3, a pass to a cutter in the lane, or worse, an And-1 (just as worse as being left with 00.00.07 seconds left). With that said, Cleveland would go into OT with momentum. Derozan barely getting a touch in the 2nd half, Fields was a non-factor all night. Big men would've been worn out with the extra play. Just a lose-lose situation that time. That shot was win or loss for the Raptors. Irving made it, we lost.

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    Stupid decision? Kyrie Irving is a metre away from the 3-point line, and quite frankly had damaged Toronto all night with his penetration going to the hoop. If you played Irving straight up - as good as the defender Anderson is - he would've been able to get himself to the hoop. Once the penetration starts, help side and defense starts to rotate, which means passing lanes, driving lanes, etc start to open up. It was clearly a lucky shot. Anderson played him like a good/SMART defender would. Don't reach, stayed down, and as Irving was at near release, Anderson put a hand up, adding pressure to an already very difficult, long ranged shot.

    Had you made Irving drive, there's a possibility they tie for OT, get an easier/wide open jumper from the 3, a pass to a cutter in the lane, or worse, an And-1 (just as worse as being left with 00.00.07 seconds left). With that said, Cleveland would go into OT with momentum. Derozan barely getting a touch in the 2nd half, Fields was a non-factor all night. Big men would've been worn out with the extra play. Just a lose-lose situation that time. That shot was win or loss for the Raptors. Irving made it, we lost.
    I agree I don't have an issue with AA's defense on the play as Kyrie can hurt you every way possible. Realistically your picking your poison and a deep 3 is playing the percentages right.

    With that being said I would have loved to seen Casey draw something up to bring a double and make someone else take the shot. Jose on the floor is mind boggling at that stage in the game to me when you need a stop.

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    Quote RAPresenting wrote: View Post
    I agree I don't have an issue with AA's defense on the play as Kyrie can hurt you every way possible. Realistically your picking your poison and a deep 3 is playing the percentages right.

    With that being said I would have loved to seen Casey draw something up to bring a double and make someone else take the shot. Jose on the floor is mind boggling at that stage in the game to me when you need a stop.
    Very much agreed, Lowry, Ross, Anderson, Davis, Amir should have been on the floor at the time. Call the double just to get the dang ball out of his hands, and force someone else to take the shot.

    But, to play opposition, depending on where the double happens, (Irving being at the top), it would have been a bad idea. Calling that double from the wing, would allow an easier, CLOSER, wide open 3 - unless of course Toronto rotates well defensively - or if one of the bigs come up, wide open lay-in for the tie, but likely we get final possession.

    I felt the defense should have played him to pick a side, than double, rotate, & make sure Kyrie doesn't get it back.

    Overall, I would've played Irving differently, but Anderson didn't do anything wrong.

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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Stupid decision? Kyrie Irving is a metre away from the 3-point line, and quite frankly had damaged Toronto all night with his penetration going to the hoop. If you played Irving straight up - as good as the defender Anderson is - he would've been able to get himself to the hoop. Once the penetration starts, help side and defense starts to rotate, which means passing lanes, driving lanes, etc start to open up. It was clearly a lucky shot. Anderson played him like a good/SMART defender would. Don't reach, stayed down, and as Irving was at near release, Anderson put a hand up, adding pressure to an already very difficult, long ranged shot.

    Had you made Irving drive, there's a possibility they tie for OT, get an easier/wide open jumper from the 3, a pass to a cutter in the lane, or worse, an And-1 (just as worse as being left with 00.00.07 seconds left). With that said, Cleveland would go into OT with momentum. Derozan barely getting a touch in the 2nd half, Fields was a non-factor all night. Big men would've been worn out with the extra play. Just a lose-lose situation that time. That shot was win or loss for the Raptors. Irving made it, we lost.
    wow son you fully giving no credit to kyrie
    the kid is an allstar, and yes, he can shoot threes

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