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    When I first started watching and loving NBA ball, the Raptors didn't exist. I loved the Malone/Stockton Jazz and Hakeem's Rockets. Being Canadian, though, and a naÔve kid, I got excited about the Raptors, first with Mighty Mouse, and then really became a die-hard fan during the Vince Carter years. It's been 15 painful, abusive years of fandom now, and let me tell you: I'm getting out. I'm checking into a battered fan's shelter. Maybe I'll find a new team to love; right now both the Jazz and the Rockets, my first flings, seem like really great bandwagons to jump on.

    All I know is, the Raptors are fucked for the foreseeable future. I can forgive some of Colangelo's mistakes. I thought O'Neal was a risky move, but one worth taking. I loved the drafting of Bargnani. I was really starting to get on board with Ross, and I was excited for JV's future. I was an extremely vocal supporter of the Fields signing. I even gave him a pass for not trading Bosh--maybe there just weren't any decent deals out there worth taking.

    But I just can't forgive him the Turkoglu signing, or the Bargnani extension, or the DeRozan extension. All of those moves looked terrible at the time, were almost universally condemned (well, there were a few weirdos who thought the Turk deal, though certainly an overpayment, was a worthwhile risk to keep Bosh around), and turned out awful. And now here's another one. Nobody--but nobody--thinks this trade is a good idea. I won't even go into the reasons, because it's just so obvious.

    Toronto for the next 3 years is stuck in the same position the Isaiah Thomas Knicks were in, and I'm not sticking around to take the abuse.

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    Im not a nobody. I like the trade.
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    I like it

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    I like the negativity.

    brings back memories of jv and tr draftings.
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    I'm ecstatic over the trade, especially if it is just the first domino to fall in the radical overhaul of the roster. Bargnani, Kleiza and DeRozan (for a good trade) are next, hopefully!

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I'm ecstatic over the trade, especially if it is just the first domino to fall in the radical overhaul of the roster. Bargnani, Kleiza and DeRozan (for a good trade) are next, hopefully!
    its growing on me.. i still wish rudy would change his name though maybe he could be mecca world war or something LOL

    im sure it is the first domino to fall & i highly doubt this is the only blockbuster BC has up his sleeve

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    Speak for yourself. I'd be willing to bet that most of the people on here love the trade.

    Not to mention all the casual fans and 12 year old boys that love watching highlight reel dunks.

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    Also, this is the first time since Chris Bosh left that we actually have a player that you could label as 'the best player on the Raptors'.

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    Until Bargnani is traded, all is not well between ebrian and Colangelo.

    However, this is a step in the right direction.

    I hate losing Ed Davis because he was promising, but I don't think he'll get much better than we've already seen and what makes this trade great is that no one will see it for awhile, since he's no longer a starter.
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    Quote Sig wrote: View Post
    Also, this is the first time since Chris Bosh left that we actually have a player that you could label as 'the best player on the Raptors'.
    Can you confidently say he's even as good an anchor as Bosh? And where did Bosh get us? What does this give anyone other than having a guy with a name American media recognizes....I'll agree he's an obvious upgrade at SF, and probably the best player on the team, but in the end, with the roster largely as is, the long term success will still depend on JV and Ross, so why make such an investment right now?? We'll see what happens. Maybe Gay will prove me wrong and put up 25, 8 and 4....

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    It's just such an awful contract, that's what makes it indefensible. It was bad the moment it was signed, and Gay's become worse since then.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I like the negativity.

    brings back memories of jv and tr draftings.
    Feels WAY more like the Turkoglu and Kapono signings.

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    I love this trade. The Raptors will never get to the next level without a wing like Gay. Derozan is a nice piece but he isnt good enough to be the starting wing on a elite team. Obviously NBA ref's favour the star players, so maybe Gay will get the calls at the buzzer that Derozan, Andrea, Amir dont. Its a farce but it is what it is.

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    Quote ST1R wrote: View Post
    I love this trade. The Raptors will never get to the next level without a wing like Gay. Derozan is a nice piece but he isnt good enough to be the starting wing on a elite team. Obviously NBA ref's favour the star players, so maybe Gay will get the calls at the buzzer that Derozan, Andrea, Amir dont. Its a farce but it is what it is.
    Gay gets to the line less than Demar.

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    Quote ST1R wrote: View Post
    I love this trade. The Raptors will never get to the next level without a wing like Gay. Derozan is a nice piece but he isnt good enough to be the starting wing on a elite team. Obviously NBA ref's favour the star players, so maybe Gay will get the calls at the buzzer that Derozan, Andrea, Amir dont. Its a farce but it is what it is.
    Very True. Did you see the Pacers-Nuggets game when Iguodala got fouled with 0.5 secs left? That was nothing compared to how Demar got hit tonight, but still the refs awarded Iguodala with a star-call and gave him FTs to win the game.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Gay gets to the line less than Demar.
    Demar doesnt have two forward-centers who play together the whole game, sleeping, eating and making a living in the paint.

    Plus, Gay wouldnt need FTs to finish games.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Very True. Did you see the Pacers-Nuggets game when Iguodala got fouled with 0.5 secs left? That was nothing compared to how Demar got hit tonight, but still the refs awarded Iguodala with a star-call and gave him FTs to win the game.
    You mean after Iguodala got away with a foul on Paul George?????
    Or you mean OJ Mayo not getting the call in Dallas....?????
    http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/30/n....ap/index.html

    It has nothing to do with who our team's got....it has everything to do with NBA refs sucking

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Demar doesnt have two forward-centers who play together the whole game, sleeping, eating and making a living in the paint.

    Plus, Gay wouldnt need FTs to finish games.
    This is what people are forgetting. Gay is going to explode in Toronto, the atmosphere here is going to fuel that. Loudest arena in the league back in the VC days. And its about to become that again
    Last edited by NoPropsneeded; Thu Jan 31st, 2013 at 12:45 AM.

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    Quote TheGloveinRapsUniform wrote: View Post
    Demar doesnt have two forward-centers who play together the whole game, sleeping, eating and making a living in the paint.

    Plus, Gay wouldnt need FTs to finish games.
    Only Gasol plays entirely in the low post. Randolph spends a lot of time on the perimeter as well. He has good post moves, but he doesn't limit the space he uses.

    And you're right, he'd settle for a jumper....so he better start shooting them better...

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    I love the trade, and unlike many here, Derozan and Gay should be a really nice wing duo.

    Kleiza, Bargnani, Fields are the more likely candidates in my opinion for trades.

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