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    Default Four players we should target

    PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A RIDICULOUS TRADE THREAD. Everyone listed here is obtainable without a great deal of fuss

    This post makes the following two assumptions. The Raptors Core going forward is Lowry/Ross/Gay/Valanciunas

    Everyone else seems to be expendable.

    The second assumption is we are not going after another near max player (although that can be argued as well)

    Derrick Williams SF/PF Minnesota
    The man is a gifted athlete and an effective 3pt shooter (35% this season) He would benefit greatly from a change in scenery and a new role.

    Wilson Chandler SG/SF Denver
    A two way player that can guard three positions. He is coming off surgery which is a completely valid excuse to avoid him. I say buy low on him as you don't ever hear the words "career ending hip injury" in the NBA.

    Paul Millsap PF Utah
    We would need to spend to keep him. By my estimate 10 - 12 million per year. But he is a great two way player tough defender good mid range shooter, a good rebounder not to mention gritty. A true Casey 4.

    Steve Blake PG Lakers
    I for one am tired of PG controversies. But I do want one that could start in a pinch. Steve Blake is no threat to Kyle Lowry. He is a capable play maker and decent 3pt shooter. Duhon is a better fit in the backup role for LA.

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    I'm just wondering if you can name some guys in which "a change in scenery" made a significant impact. I'm actually just curious, not being facetious and don't have time to look this up.
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    Harden is playing better in Houston

    Lin (minus the brief outbreak of Linsanity) is playing better in Houston

    Glen Davis is playing better in Orlando (till he broke his foot)

    Gallinari in Denver

    McGee in Denver

    Mayo in Dallas

    Crawford for the Clips



    the reasons on these vary

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    The 'change of scenery' theme actually sells quite well in most professional sports. I like Millsap, Derrick Williams and Steve Blake as potential acquisitions

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    I'm just wondering if you can name some guys in which "a change in scenery" made a significant impact. I'm actually just curious, not being facetious and don't have time to look this up.
    Vince Carter?
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    Just looking through the free agency list for the upcoming offseason (http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents/) and I notice that there are lots of decent backup PGs available, including...

    - Calderon :-)
    - Collison (if not qualified by Dallas)
    - Augustin
    - Duhon (if option not picked-up by Lakers)
    - Ridnour (under contract with Minnesota, but could be another trade target, given that he's their 3rd/4th PG behind Rubio, Shved and Barea)


    All the more reason to focus on acquiring a starting PF in any trade of DeRozan (possibly along with any of Bargnani, Kleiza, Anderson), be it a trade at the deadline or in the offseason. Millsap would be my primary PF target, be it in trade or free agency.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Vince Carter?
    too soooooon

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Millsap would be my primary PF target, be it in trade or free agency.
    I'm on board with that

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    too soooooon
    lol - it is true though.

    '04-'05 TOR 20 games
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    .322 3pt
    2.5-3.6 .694 ft
    3.3 reb
    3.1 ast
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    WORST TRADE EVER OCCURS!


    '04-'05 NJ 57 games
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    Matt52 should be punished somehow for potentially turning this into a VC thread :P

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    Correct me if I'm wrong Matt, but I assume you mentioned Carter not as a possible target, but another example of someone who benefited from a "change in scenery".
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Matt52 should be punished somehow for potentially turning this into a VC thread :P
    but but but but


    ebrian.... he he he he....


    ahhhh shit.... sorry.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong Matt, but I assume you mentioned Carter not as a possible target, but another example of someone who benefited from a "change in scenery".
    Yes in response to ebrian question.
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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Harden is playing better in Houston

    Lin (minus the brief outbreak of Linsanity) is playing better in Houston

    Glen Davis is playing better in Orlando (till he broke his foot)

    Gallinari in Denver

    McGee in Denver

    Mayo in Dallas

    Crawford for the Clips



    the reasons on these vary

    I will pre-order Gallinari home and away shirts then

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    PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A RIDICULOUS TRADE THREAD. Everyone listed here is obtainable without a great deal of fuss

    This post makes the following two assumptions. The Raptors Core going forward is Lowry/Ross/Gay/Valanciunas

    Everyone else seems to be expendable.

    The second assumption is we are not going after another near max player (although that can be argued as well)

    Derrick Williams SF/PF Minnesota
    The man is a gifted athlete and an effective 3pt shooter (35% this season) He would benefit greatly from a change in scenery and a new role.

    Wilson Chandler SG/SF Denver
    A two way player that can guard three positions. He is coming off surgery which is a completely valid excuse to avoid him. I say buy low on him as you don't ever hear the words "career ending hip injury" in the NBA.

    Paul Millsap PF Utah
    We would need to spend to keep him. By my estimate 10 - 12 million per year. But he is a great two way player tough defender good mid range shooter, a good rebounder not to mention gritty. A true Casey 4.

    Steve Blake PG Lakers
    I for one am tired of PG controversies. But I do want one that could start in a pinch. Steve Blake is no threat to Kyle Lowry. He is a capable play maker and decent 3pt shooter. Duhon is a better fit in the backup role for LA.
    AB for DW straight up?

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    AB for DW straight up?
    get out

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    Lets get another highlight reel*, McGee.

    * Shaqtin a fool
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    Good thread overall and I like the base assumptions. With the presumed core of these four... the true need is a PF and I like Millsap with this lineup. With Amir and Fields off the bench this is a solid unit. Ross and Val progress could take this team to Indiana, Chicago, Brooklyn level in a few years. People just need to be patient now. Another three team deal that nets us Millsap, Derozan going to Utah and Bargs ends up somewhere... don't care where?

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    why is Derrick Williams even a suggestion at this point?? I didn't want him when we didn't have gay and I don't want him now

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    he is buried behind Kirilenko and Love... and he is a four with range. If your PG/SG and PF can drop threes at or around 35 - 40%...and your C can hammer people on screens and dive to the bucket... = easy offense.

    2.) If you have Lowry/Ross/Gay/Williams on the floor then during crunch time defensive plays you switch on every screen. You will often see crunch time subs from many other teams in order to put someone out there that allows you to switch.

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