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I finally voted, and I put Yes for the following reasons:
(a) Keeping Davis would mean Bargnani would have been even less useful to us. Trade away!
(b) Ross' role on the team may never grow because the 3 guys ahead of him in depth chart have huge contracts.
(c) Big men take longer to develop, but Davis was nearly there already.
(d) It's always easier to find retreads at the SG position than big men (see Anderson)
I still think Ross may end up having a better career than Davis, but in our situation we may have been better off trading Ross.
here are the counter points:
a) We need no other reasons to trade bargnani and neither did management.
b) Ross' role will expand as he becomes a more consistent shooter (#letrosstake1000shotsaday) and he'll be extremely important to this team when that happens
c) Even though big men take longer to develop, that doesn't change the fact that ED's ceiling was never that high
d) good point, but PF's that get you 8-10 rbds a game per 48 minutes, shoot 75% from the FT line and can only score in the flow of the offense are also pretty easy to find (see Tristan Thompson, Jason Maxiel, tyler hansborough, Aaron Gray or any player one step above reggie evans.)
At the end of the day, if Ross can develop to play at both ends of the floor, he will be extremely valuable to this team going forward
Point I like to focus on ... beyond Gay being on the roster: Jonas is the future.
Our window as contenders can only happen when he is in his prime - and with the league going the way it is with 1-big lineups so often, it would seem wise to keep the dynamic young wing with a high ceiling ... rather than a blue collar big with payday coming a few years sooner (unlike Ross, who also has 4 years of rookie scale).
The Gay trade makes us a solid middle-tier East playoff team. The 'Jonas era' will incorporate whichever pieces fit the best.
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Trading Davis means Colangelo can't extend him for 10-15 mil more than he's worth next year.
It is MUCH easier to find a player built like Ed Davis with his (limited) skill set, than to find what potentially could be found in Ross. Ross was way more valuable than Ed, and still is.
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Right now, my excitement for Ross is based primarily on his raw athleticism. If he can harness that ability, and fine tune his 3 point shooting and defense, I think he's a great fit next to Gay in the starting lineup.
If we didn't already have Amir, I might think twice about giving up Davis. But I don't see a scenario where Davis leapfrogs Amir if both are on the roster.
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no. i havent been the hugest fan of ross lately, but if he develops and becomes a consistent 3 point threat, then good enough for me. raptors really need one besides streaky JL/AA/super lucky telfair shots/one in 15 games DD 3 pointer, and all the horrible rudy gay attempts ugh.
This is a pretty good question.
If Ed had not been traded, Bargnani may have possibly been dealt. I sure as hell like Amir and Ed better than Amir and Bargs. But, Ross can end up being so good, I think we are probably going to be happy that Davis was dealt instead of him.
No for me, reasons being ...
- Ed Davis will be in the final year of his rookie deal while Ross will be in his 2nd
- Ross has pure athleticism & a quick first step
- Ed Davis can still only go left
- Without Jose, it's not like Ed Davis will be spoon fed & truth be told, for the most part, he needs to be spoon fed looks around the rim
- I see Ross with a higher upside (overall game) than DeRozan because of his shooting stroke and defensive potential. He's a more explosive athlete and has the lateral quickness.
- Having said that, Ed was my favorite Raptor at the time. He's just too boss. I wish we traded Alan Anderson instead of him.
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I said no. As much as I loved Ed Davis on the raptors, Terrence Ross has some mad potential. If he begins developing like Paul George I'd go as far as to ship derozan with bargnani for another big piece.
ED was further along in his development and he was our best rebounder. Imagine having Ed around to grab Rudy's misses.......Also I loved the chemistry between Amir and Ed. Ross gets 16 min a game and is stuck behind AA, RG, DD and even LF. To me it didnt make sense BUT Memphis' GM is no moron......maybe they demanded ED!?
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