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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    A lot has been made about DeRozan but I just noticed Rudy's stat line this preseason:

    14 points per game
    8 field goal attempts
    6.8 free throw attempts

    47.5% fg
    46.7% 3pt
    73.5% ft

    4.6 rebounds
    1.2 assists
    .6 blk
    .8 stl
    1.8 to


    IN 20 MINUTES PER GAME*


    *insert typical "Its just preseason!" here.
    Those numbers are somewhat impressive, still considering IT'S JUST PRESEASON. There you go, Matt.

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    For me, I know there's a lot of rumours about Rudy, but, I would like Rudy to stay, for this entire season at the very least. It's pre-season, and even though I sound like a hitch not helping in the broken record, it's pre-season. He's got so many interesting things that'll work for him - the 20 pounds, the surgically repaired eyes, the work in the off-season. BUT, it also might not help him improve a single thing.

    For what it's worth, he's s shot-creator, and a fantastic one in the fourth quarter. We've seen that multiple times last season, the scoring in the 4th quarter + game-winner vs. Indiana, the game-winner against Denver after not scoring for nearly a quarter or so. He's also got great size and length for his position, and when he puts his mind to it, he's also a very good defender.

    Rudy has all the talent in the world, and like Sam Mitchell, like Jack Armstrong, like whoever else has covered him, it's whether or not he can finally work hard enough to get to that next gear, and truly be an elite/all-star calibre player.

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    Where did you find these stats? Or did you just calculate it yourself?
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
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    Ohhh I didn't know they had preseason stats up on there. I checked and couldn't find anything.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
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    Oh I see it now. But what you showed was for the last 5 games not the whole preseason but I get it.

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    I didn't know it was moved. I thought I was unsuccessful in posting. Thx

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    Oh I see it now. But what you showed was for the last 5 games not the whole preseason but I get it.
    Whoops. Right. You are.

    Adding first 2 games ups fg (9/18), lowers 3 (1/5), and ups ft (9/10).
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    Keep Rudy, cuz......


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    Nice.

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    I hope Rudy stays. I don't think he's the franchise player we need, but JV should develop into that. At least keep Rudy to keep us competitive enough to make the play offs for the next year or two. I know it'd likely mean a first round exit and I'm OK with that for now. Playoff experience is invaluable and I'd rather have a JV with 2 rounds of play off experience by the time were ready to compete rather than none. Losing in the first round I think would help build character and a stronger desire to get better. Play off experience is invaluable to a young core. My 3 cents for what they're worth.

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    Quote Sprechen wrote: View Post
    Despite the contract I want Rudy Gay on my team. The guy brings the sizzle that we haven't had since Vince. He has elevated DeRozan's game as well, big time. We have one of the best wing pairs in the league.
    This statement is a bit of a stretch.......though I like the enthusiasm .

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    This statement is a bit of a stretch.......though I like the enthusiasm .
    Replace 'sizzle' with 'unproven swagger' and I'm picking up what he's putting down.

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    For some reason I decided to use the espn player profile to see Austin Daye's efficiency and it kind of shocked me to see that he was actually the most efficient player on the team this preseason. He shot 57% from the field and 55% from 3. Maybe he might get more playing time than Novak because they are both equal in terms of defense but Austin can do a little bit more than just shoot 3's on offense. He was actually very efficient from 2 point field goals as well.

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    I really like Daye. Could give us some good three point shooting a versatility for 10-15 minutes a game. With the rate he's hitting the 3 at, he's probably more useful than Novak.

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    Quote GLF wrote: View Post
    For some reason I decided to use the espn player profile to see Austin Daye's efficiency and it kind of shocked me to see that he was actually the most efficient player on the team this preseason. He shot 57% from the field and 55% from 3. Maybe he might get more playing time than Novak because they are both equal in terms of defense but Austin can do a little bit more than just shoot 3's on offense. He was actually very efficient from 2 point field goals as well.
    He bring better tools to the D. With his 7-3 wingspan
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    Quote Nosike17 wrote: View Post
    I really like Daye. Could give us some good three point shooting a versatility for 10-15 minutes a game. With the rate he's hitting the 3 at, he's probably more useful than Novak.
    You know, if he doesn't foul out in those 10-15 minutes

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    He bring better tools to the D. With his 7-3 wingspan
    I had some hopes he would be effective there...but he's still way too skinny and just ends up fouling a lot it seems. Clearly not all of that is being skinny, but it hasn't helped him.

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    His blocked a couple shots though.
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    Raptors preseason on Raptors.com - at least until the season starts

    2013-14 Raptors Pre Season Statistics
    Player Averages Rebounds
    Player G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
    DeMar DeRozan 7 7 23.4 0.543 0.214 0.824 0.10 3.00 3.10 1.4 1.00 0.00 2.00 1.14 15.3
    Rudy Gay 7 7 20.4 0.483 0.400 0.773 0.70 3.40 4.10 1.3 1.00 0.57 2.00 1.86 14.0
    Terrence Ross 7 0 21.0 0.438 0.310 0.826 0.30 1.90 2.10 0.7 1.00 0.00 1.71 2.57 12.0
    Tyler Hansbrough 7 0 18.1 0.528 0.000 0.848 2.60 2.60 5.10 0.3 0.43 0.14 1.14 2.86 9.4
    Jonas Valanciunas 7 7 24.1 0.605 0.000 0.750 1.70 4.70 6.40 1.3 0.57 1.29 1.57 3.14 8.7
    Kyle Lowry 7 7 20.4 0.452 0.333 0.818 0.70 1.90 2.60 4.0 0.57 0.43 2.43 1.57 7.4
    Landry Fields 7 0 19.3 0.500 0.286 0.765 1.00 3.10 4.10 1.9 0.43 0.14 1.43 1.14 7.0
    Dwight Buycks 7 0 18.0 0.367 0.000 0.833 0.40 1.70 2.10 3.0 0.86 0.00 2.14 1.29 6.6
    Austin Daye 7 0 10.4 0.571 0.545 0.909 0.30 1.60 1.90 0.6 0.29 0.43 0.86 2.86 5.7
    Quincy Acy 5 0 15.8 0.550 0.500 0.750 0.80 3.40 4.20 0.4 0.20 0.20 1.40 3.40 5.6
    Amir Johnson 7 7 20.3 0.441 0.286 0.750 1.90 3.00 4.90 1.0 0.29 0.43 1.14 2.29 5.0
    Steve Novak 2 0 13.5 0.429 0.600 0.000 0.00 2.00 2.00 0.0 0.00 0.00 0.50 1.50 4.5
    D.J. Augustin 7 0 13.7 0.269 0.364 0.714 0.10 0.60 0.70 1.6 0.00 0.00 1.14 1.14 3.3
    Carlos Morais 3 0 7.0 0.400 0.500 0.000 0.00 0.70 0.70 0.0 0.33 0.00 0.67 0.00 2.0
    Chris Wright 5 0 5.2 0.300 0.000 0.800 0.40 0.80 1.20 0.0 0.20 0.00 0.40 0.80 2.0
    Julyan Stone 6 0 13.3 0.182 0.000 1.000 0.00 2.30 2.30 1.2 0.83 0.17 0.50 1.50 1.0
    Aaron Gray 4 0 7.8 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.00 2.80 2.80 0.3 0.25 0.50 0.50 1.75 0.0
    Team Averages 7 0 247.1 0.462 0.322 0.806 10.71 34.86 45.57 18.4 7.71 4.00 20.71 27.57 102.9
    Opponents 7 0 247.1 0.403 0.299 0.726 12.29 26.57 38.86 20.4 9.71 5.14 15.71 25.29 95.3
    Player Totals Rebounds
    Player G GS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    DeMar DeRozan 7 7 164 38-70 3-14 28-34 1 21 22 10 7 0 14 8 107
    Rudy Gay 7 7 143 28-58 8-20 34-44 5 24 29 9 7 4 14 13 98
    Terrence Ross 7 0 147 28-64 9-29 19-23 2 13 15 5 7 0 12 18 84
    Tyler Hansbrough 7 0 127 19-36 0-0 28-33 18 18 36 2 3 1 8 20 66
    Jonas Valanciunas 7 7 169 23-38 0-0 15-20 12 33 45 9 4 9 11 22 61
    Kyle Lowry 7 7 143 19-42 5-15 9-11 5 13 18 28 4 3 17 11 52
    Landry Fields 7 0 135 17-34 2-7 13-17 7 22 29 13 3 1 10 8 49
    Dwight Buycks 7 0 126 18-49 0-13 10-12 3 12 15 21 6 0 15 9 46
    Austin Daye 7 0 73 12-21 6-11 10-11 2 11 13 4 2 3 6 20 40
    Amir Johnson 7 7 142 15-34 2-7 3-4 13 21 34 7 2 3 8 16 35
    Quincy Acy 5 0 79 11-20 3-6 3-4 4 17 21 2 1 1 7 17 28
    D.J. Augustin 7 0 96 7-26 4-11 5-7 1 4 5 11 0 0 8 8 23
    Chris Wright 5 0 26 3-10 0-0 4-5 2 4 6 0 1 0 2 4 10
    Steve Novak 2 0 27 3-7 3-5 0-0 0 4 4 0 0 0 1 3 9
    Julyan Stone 6 0 80 2-11 0-4 2-2 0 14 14 7 5 1 3 9 6
    Carlos Morais 3 0 21 2-5 2-4 0-0 0 2 2 0 1 0 2 0 6
    Aaron Gray 4 0 31 0-5 0-0 0-0 0 11 11 1 1 2 2 7 0
    Team Totals 7 0 1,730 245-530 47-146 183-227 75 244 319 129 54 28 145 193 720
    Opponents 7 0 -- 240-596 49-164 138-190 86 186 272 143 68 36 110 177 667
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I had some hopes he would be effective there...but he's still way too skinny and just ends up fouling a lot it seems. Clearly not all of that is being skinny, but it hasn't helped him.
    Yea I agree, that wingspan hasn't really helped him much on D. But I think the real mistake is Casey being so dead set to use him as a stretch 4. I really think Austin Daye plays better at the 3. His wingspan can really help him there. Since he doesn't have the greatest foot speed he can give guys more room than the average player and his wingspan will help him still be able to contest shots. Novak is a stretch 4 but Daye is more of a 3. I wish Casey would see that. Because at the 4 whatever he gives you on the offensive end gets taken away by how much of a struggle it is for him defensively. It's almost like Bargnani but he's much more efficient.

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