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    great game tonight amir. great game.

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    Amir does make a great 1st big off the bench, but in time, if Amir were to keep starting, I could see Acy having that role.

    Amir is definitely a +++ defender, as witnessed by his D on Griffin tonight.

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    Amir's work effort >>>>>

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    Amir is a WARRIOR.

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    In this system, with the speed they are playing Amir can start. Is it playoff winning basketball? Not sure. Also having Acey, and him being the first, serviceable big BCo has drafted from the second round gives us time to find the perfect fit instead of trading Bargs for a sack of basketballs.

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    Always thought Amir was a good player but not worth the money. This year has been a different story though and I hope it's a sign that he's coming of age. So far this year, he's earned every cent of his salary and has shown a lot of maturity. He's starting to remind me of Oakley(on Court only). Only hope this continues.

    I don't see him as a day to day starter though. Once in a while yes but I think he's better suited to come off the bench.
    Attitude Is A Choice.

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    Quote blackjitsu wrote: View Post
    In this system, with the speed they are playing Amir can start. Is it playoff winning basketball? Not sure. Also having Acey, and him being the first, serviceable big BCo has drafted from the second round gives us time to find the perfect fit instead of trading Bargs for a sack of basketballs.
    It's a more traditional team. Is it a playoff TYPE team? Yes. Is it a playoff winning team? Nope. If JV can become that guy in the low post, and Amir continues his steady improvement, I would think this team can win in the playoffs.

    But, it's only one game. But, against a very good team like the Clips - regardless with CP3 or not - we came out bangin'.

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    Quote Eric Akshinthala wrote: View Post
    Always thought Amir was a good player but not worth the money. This year has been a different story though and I hope it's a sign that he's coming of age. So far this year, he's earned every cent of his salary and has shown a lot of maturity. He's starting to remind me of Oakley(on Court only). Only hope this continues.

    I don't see him as a day to day starter though. Once in a while yes but I think he's better suited to come off the bench.
    His numbers have proven otherwise as a starter.

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    Jesus, he's playing great basketball right now. He's turning into a double double machine. I think that it saves us from having to start bargnani in the short term. IF we do lose bargnani, than we need another PF/C and I'd rather have a player that's more talented than Amir not less. I do think that Bargs+Wing(s) gets us something decent in return. Or at least gives us the cap space to sign a decent PF/C this off season.

    Again I think that JV+Amir+another player as good as amir, is a GREAT frontcourt rotation. AMIR is a BEAST!
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    Also, to ANYONE who said he was overpaid when he received his contract, how does that crow taste?
    "We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

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    To me he's clearly the best performance to contract player on this team, and that includes the rookies.
    "We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    His numbers have proven otherwise as a starter.

    Although PAST performance is a GOOD indicator of FUTURE performance, it is never perfect. Does anyone see Amir averaging 14 pts and 9 rebs a game for the duration of a season?
    "We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

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    Quote ezz_bee wrote: View Post
    Although PAST performance is a GOOD indicator of FUTURE performance, it is never perfect. Does anyone see Amir averaging 14 pts and 9 rebs a game for the duration of a season?
    This year he is averaging 10 pts and 7 rebs in 26 minutes. Extend that to 35 minutes and there is your 14 and 9.

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    Amir is truly in #beastmode! Whether he's our starter or first big off the bench, I want him to stick around for a long time. Great attitude and proper hustle everyday...
    Keep Calm & Chive On

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    Quote ezz_bee wrote: View Post
    Although PAST performance is a GOOD indicator of FUTURE performance, it is never perfect. Does anyone see Amir averaging 14 pts and 9 rebs a game for the duration of a season?
    Assuming he stays out of foul trouble (and don't get me wrong thats a huge question mark) I think he can.

    Last 3 years as a starter, per 36, he averaged approx 10, 12 and 16pts with atleast 9 rebounds each of those seasons.

    Problem is, except for this year, he's only managed to stay on the floor (for one reason or another) for around 26 min a game as a starter.

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    Amir has been my favourite Raptor for the last few years, however he is not very consistent. He had an outstanding game yesterday no doubt, but Amir also disappears in a lot of games. Not sure if you remember that stretch last season when he wasn't mentally ready for some reason or another.

    I want my starter to be consistent. A good starter for now, but not for the long term.

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    Reminds me of Antonio Davis

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    THING TO REMEMBER

    Just because a person CAN start doesn't mean they should.

    Think of it like this.

    Landry Fields starts at the 3 position, he gives you 30 minutes a game and is a solid player. Then you go to your bench...you pull out youth (rookie mistakes) experience (banged up vet) or the D - League guy so for 18 minutes a game you have an inferior product. Now Rudy Gay comes in and gives you way more than Landry Fields but that does not negate Landry Fields contribution. Now you have a better player going to your bench that CAN start. Now he is playing against the second unit of other teams and instead of worrying about holding a lead we are extending it. Now we can hold a rookie such as Terrence Ross accountable for mistakes and push him in practice every single day. When you look at teams around the league that are successful, for instance The Heat, if Dwayne Wade goes down....Ray Allen is on the bench. DEPTH separates you from fringe playoff contender to legit championship contender.

    Now back to us. Amir Johnson CAN start, and will likely play 30 minutes a game most nights, but why settle for that, when you will get the same thing from him off the bench. Gasol or Millsap or whoever we target are simply more talented. But you don't lose much in the way of contributions. Now Quincy Acy can be held accountable and brought along slowly. JV can be held accountable as well.

    I think we see how hard he plays, how much heart he has we think this man DESERVES to start. But that is thinking with the heart and not the head. If we actually want to make some noise and the cheque book is open, Amir is not the best we can do even though he is one hell of a guy

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Reminds me of Antonio Davis
    I disagree. Amir (bless his heart) has no "back to the basket" game. He is also maybe 60 pounds lighter. (No time to research). Amir 's game is quick reaction to offensive boards, and being faster then the other PF's that play his position. We've done it before. Keon Clark. Amir needs more weight, but he is a "starter."

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