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    Default Why is Anderson getting this much mins? questions, questions, questions....

    This boggles my mind. AA pretty much played the entire 2nd half tonight without doing anything. Incredible.

    Also, remember when Casey said that the acquisition of Gay will not affect Ross mins? well, Ross only played 5mins tonight. So there goes that.

    Raps 4th quarter issue is just becoming comical. Because the same mistakes happens every game. Turnovers after turnovers. Inability to inbound the ball. Inability to execute late in teh game. Bad play calls after timeout. Baffling.

    It's hard to hate on Casey because he seems like a real good guy. But some or most of his coaching decisions just boggles my mind.
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    Same as Samuel Dalembert. upping his trade value

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    Quote Raptor_11 wrote: View Post
    Same as Samuel Dalembert. upping his trade value
    that's what I thought....I feel like it's backfiring though

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    I can't stand it when he isolates on his man with gay and demar on the floor just standing and watching him. I don't see know Casey isn't playing ross more in these situations, cuz with gay, demar and lowry out there, they need someone who can catch and shoot when they penetrate.

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    Yup. Only reason why Anderson is getting that much burn is for a trade.

    Butch Carter said it best on the Fan the other day, the one thing the Raps need to do with their next trade is make sure Ross wont get ignored. He needs minutes every night, and to receive attention from the coaches.

    Along with getting a backup big and point guard, making sure Ross has a clear and consistent role is important.

    Ross needs that, and to do that you are going to have to move Anderson.

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    Anderson is dreadful. What scares me most is that in the 4th quarter, Anderson, Lowry and DeRozan seem to have absolutely no bb-IQ. The turnovers they made are of the variety I wouldn't accept from an elementary school team. Amir's rushed pass - and I use the term "pass" loosely - at the end of the game was just laughable. They all just sat back and expected Gay to save them, on a night he was lucky to shoot 30%! Yikes... I know it comes down to execution, but at some point the coach needs to be held responsible for all the boneheaded plays.

    Anderson needs to go. With Ross and Fields (when healthy), Anderson shouldn't see the court whatsoever.

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    Anderson sucks period, why is he still playing. Give minutes to Ross. Ross in the past two games no actually ever since Gay arrived in town, he looked like a mouse playing along with a cat, always look for the 3 and not attack the rim or looking to pass. Free Ross, trade Anderson. The guy is too frustrating to watch and with his complaining attitude, not gonna work.

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    Anderson and Lucas. Those two morons shouldn't even be on the court at any point during the 4th
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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Anderson and Lucas. Those two morons shouldn't even be on the court at any point during the 4th
    Anderson was on because your boy Derozan couldn't guard an 83 year-old, let alone Paul Pierce. As minks77 has suggested,

    Just goes to show that most fans just don't see Defence beyond blocks and steals. Double A was playing tough as nails man D on PP the whole 4th q. Truth is known to be a late game player and when he started to look for his AA was right in his grill and wasn't bailing him out with fouls.


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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    Anderson was on because your boy Derozan couldn't guard an 83 year-old, let alone Paul Pierce. As minks77 has suggested,

    Just goes to show that most fans just don't see Defence beyond blocks and steals. Double A was playing tough as nails man D on PP the whole 4th q. Truth is known to be a late game player and when he started to look for his AA was right in his grill and wasn't bailing him out with fouls.


    He's right...
    Anderson didn't do shit. I'm not defending demar at all, he let courtney lee drive past him multiple times, his defense was shit. I don't know what defence your talking about on PP, i didn't see anything good from anderson last night. Ross needs to get more minutes off the bench.
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    Things that stand out to me after this game

    Positives:

    Kyle Lowry- He really stepped it up in the 3rd quarter Lets see if it carries over to the next game.

    Andrea Bargnani- Surprisingly he seemed engaged defensively and he played terrific help defense which doesn't happen often. Also, Dre had a terrific first half but seemed to be a bit gassed as the game finished. As he continues to get his legs back I'm excited to see if he can keep up the energy.

    Gay and DeRozan- These two are proving to be a very potent duo on the offensive end.

    Negatives:

    Dwayne Casey- He has cost us several games this year due to his questionable substitution patterns and his play calling has been really bad. His lack of experience as a head coach is evident and is very worrying.

    John Lucas- As a backup PG, JL3 did a poor job of running a team and his shot selection is just awful. He is one of the biggest liabilities on the floor and we need to pick up a legit backup pg who knows his role.

    Allan Anderson- Can't stand that he is stealing minutes away from Terrence Ross. He hasn't showed us fans any reason as to why he deserves to keep getting minutes. He's a bench player who thinks he's a first option on offense.

    This season is over.

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    Quote Ambidextrious wrote: View Post
    Things that stand out to me after this game

    Positives:

    Kyle Lowry- He really stepped it up in the 3rd quarter Lets see if it carries over to the next game.

    Andrea Bargnani- Surprisingly he seemed engaged defensively and he played terrific help defense which doesn't happen often. Also, Dre had a terrific first half but seemed to be a bit gassed as the game finished. As he continues to get his legs back I'm excited to see if he can keep up the energy.

    Gay and DeRozan- These two are proving to be a very potent duo on the offensive end.

    Negatives:

    Dwayne Casey- He has cost us several games this year due to his questionable substitution patterns and his play calling has been really bad. His lack of experience as a head coach is evident and is very worrying.

    John Lucas- As a backup PG, JL3 did a poor job of running a team and his shot selection is just awful. He is one of the biggest liabilities on the floor and we need to pick up a legit backup pg who knows his role.

    Allan Anderson- Can't stand that he is stealing minutes away from Terrence Ross. He hasn't showed us fans any reason as to why he deserves to keep getting minutes. He's a bench player who thinks he's a first option on offense.

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    We have serious rotation problems, and this is something which we couldn't really judge casey on last year for a bunch of reasons.

    If you look at any championship team, playoff team, or even any functioning organization in any industry...there has to be a hierarchy. This is not debatable.

    I can pick any team, but a good/easy example is OKC. Westbrook basically does whatever he wants on the court and clearly believes that he should be granted immunity as far as bad shots or any other bad decisions as the point guard of the team. But, because he is a top 10 player in the league he is actually allowed to do this on a nightly basis, so long as the team is winning. It doesn't matter how good Sefelosha, or Ibaka is feeling that night, they do not get to go up in the hierarchy. They stick to what they do defensively, and Westbrook does what he does.

    BUT at the end of the game, or even during the game, if Durant wants the ball, he gets the ball. Westbrook won't say anything. Everyone knows he is a top two player on the planet and that not only is he the better player, but that the Team is better off if Durant takes the shot. If Westbrook does get to take it...it has to be ok with Durant first.

    The problem with our team is that we need a 9 man rotation and DC is killing us with the inconsistent messages he is sending. It makes NO SENSE to start a guy like aaron gray, or at least give him more minutes than JVAL. It makes even less sense to play anderson over Ross.

    so:
    JVAL, Bargs, Amir, Gay, Derozan, Lowry, Ross, Lucas (by default as a backup pg) and Fields should be the ones playing every night, no questions asked.

    By playing anyone else, he is sending mixed messages to the guys that should be playing.

    Most importantly, by mixing up the rotations and allowing guys like anderson to take 10 shots a game, he is not allowing us to maintain a hierarchy where we actually have some consistency on a nightly basis.

    I know it's early, but this has been a problem all season (cough cough starting mcguire) and he needs to settle on a rotation and move on

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    Quote BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    We have serious rotation problems, and this is something which we couldn't really judge casey on last year for a bunch of reasons.

    If you look at any championship team, playoff team, or even any functioning organization in any industry...there has to be a hierarchy. This is not debatable.

    I can pick any team, but a good/easy example is OKC. Westbrook basically does whatever he wants on the court and clearly believes that he should be granted immunity as far as bad shots or any other bad decisions as the point guard of the team. But, because he is a top 10 player in the league he is actually allowed to do this on a nightly basis, so long as the team is winning. It doesn't matter how good Sefelosha, or Ibaka is feeling that night, they do not get to go up in the hierarchy. They stick to what they do defensively, and Westbrook does what he does.

    BUT at the end of the game, or even during the game, if Durant wants the ball, he gets the ball. Westbrook won't say anything. Everyone knows he is a top two player on the planet and that not only is he the better player, but that the Team is better off if Durant takes the shot. If Westbrook does get to take it...it has to be ok with Durant first.

    The problem with our team is that we need a 9 man rotation and DC is killing us with the inconsistent messages he is sending. It makes NO SENSE to start a guy like aaron gray, or at least give him more minutes than JVAL. It makes even less sense to play anderson over Ross.

    so:
    JVAL, Bargs, Amir, Gay, Derozan, Lowry, Ross, Lucas (by default as a backup pg) and Fields should be the ones playing every night, no questions asked.

    By playing anyone else, he is sending mixed messages to the guys that should be playing.

    Most importantly, by mixing up the rotations and allowing guys like anderson to take 10 shots a game, he is not allowing us to maintain a hierarchy where we actually have some consistency on a nightly basis.

    I know it's early, but this has been a problem all season (cough cough starting mcguire) and he needs to settle on a rotation and move on
    Only thing I can think of is that he's putting a line up out there of veterans as opposed to rookies to give the team the best chance to win. Both JV and Ross have talent, but they tend to make a lot of mistakes out there. I think you'll see a lot more JV and Ross, once playoffs are out of the question and there is nothing more to gain out of this season than experience for the rookies.

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    Quote BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    We have serious rotation problems, and this is something which we couldn't really judge casey on last year for a bunch of reasons.

    If you look at any championship team, playoff team, or even any functioning organization in any industry...there has to be a hierarchy. This is not debatable.

    I can pick any team, but a good/easy example is OKC. Westbrook basically does whatever he wants on the court and clearly believes that he should be granted immunity as far as bad shots or any other bad decisions as the point guard of the team. But, because he is a top 10 player in the league he is actually allowed to do this on a nightly basis, so long as the team is winning. It doesn't matter how good Sefelosha, or Ibaka is feeling that night, they do not get to go up in the hierarchy. They stick to what they do defensively, and Westbrook does what he does.

    BUT at the end of the game, or even during the game, if Durant wants the ball, he gets the ball. Westbrook won't say anything. Everyone knows he is a top two player on the planet and that not only is he the better player, but that the Team is better off if Durant takes the shot. If Westbrook does get to take it...it has to be ok with Durant first.

    The problem with our team is that we need a 9 man rotation and DC is killing us with the inconsistent messages he is sending. It makes NO SENSE to start a guy like aaron gray, or at least give him more minutes than JVAL. It makes even less sense to play anderson over Ross.

    so:
    JVAL, Bargs, Amir, Gay, Derozan, Lowry, Ross, Lucas (by default as a backup pg) and Fields should be the ones playing every night, no questions asked.

    By playing anyone else, he is sending mixed messages to the guys that should be playing.

    Most importantly, by mixing up the rotations and allowing guys like anderson to take 10 shots a game, he is not allowing us to maintain a hierarchy where we actually have some consistency on a nightly basis.

    I know it's early, but this has been a problem all season (cough cough starting mcguire) and he needs to settle on a rotation and move on
    How exactly was Casey supposed to define a rotation with injuries to JVal, AB, Fields, Lowry, Pietrus, Kleiza, and the trade of Calderon and Davis? A bit difficult if not impossible. In addition if a line up wasn't working, sticking to it for the sake of player's psyches doesn't amount to a winning strategy in my opinion. I see Casey straddling the line of wins vs. young player development, and that's a franchise decision that needs to be made and moved forward with.

    As far as hierarchies go, Durant does not 'want the ball' and 'get the ball' .... he receives the ball inside an offensive system that is built around his number of shots per game, that his teammates understand and buy into. If he's triple-teamed all game, the hierarchy doesn't mean shit ... he's not getting it, and there are other players able to score in his stead.

    I will agree that the Raps need a defined rotation, but I see them moving towards that in the right way.

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    Hopefully Anderson is getting moved.

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    Just goes to show that most fans just don't see Defence beyond blocks and steals. Double A was playing tough as nails man D on PP the whole 4th q. Truth is known to be a late game player and when he started to look for his AA was right in his grill and wasn't bailing him out with fouls. Ross, God love him, is still a rook. We all know that a vet like Pierce is going to destroy any rookie in the crunch and the refs are not going to favour Ross at all.

    As promising as Ross is he still has a long way to go on both ends. Tonight was one of his invisible nights at both ends. Anderson is way ahead of him. On the ball, off, helping, closing out, rotating, all of it.
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    u must be joking right?? 5 points on 2-7 shooting in 28 mins. that real productive...
    Pierce had an off night and he was still capable of being a factor. Pierce finished with 13 Points 11 Boards and 6 Assists. He clearly got the better of Anderson so I dont know what you're talking about. Although he had an off night shooting, I wouldn't necessarily attribute it to AA's defense because we all know what Paul Pierce is capable of...
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    Quote Ambidextrious wrote: View Post
    u must be joking right?? 5 points on 2-7 shooting in 28 mins. that real productive.. ***
    Pierce had an off night I wouldn't neccesarily attribute it to AA's Defence because we all know what Paul Pierce is capable of...
    If you know what he's capable of and had an "off" night, there's a good chance that whomever is guarding him has caused him to have an off night. I'll take AA's shooting (.285) and D on Pierce's shooting (0.181) VS. Demar's shooting (.313) and D on Lee's shooting (.545). Lee danced around Derozan all night long like the Drunken Master. Just sayin'.
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    If you know what he's capable of and had an "off" night, there's a good chance that whomever is guarding him has caused him to have an off night. I'll take AA's shooting (.285) and D on Pierce's shooting (0.181) VS. Demar's shooting (.313) and D on Lee's shooting (.545). Lee danced around Derozan all night long like the Drunken Master. Just sayin'.
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    The way I see it, they're both chuckers. Alan Anderson just has the face and style of game you'd love to hate. But defensively, Demar wishes he can D up like AA. That said, Alan Anderson is a chucker.
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