Why are people booing Bargnani?

[BasketballCrush]

I have booed the teams effort before though. Did the head shake, and hand swat.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

Maybe I'm old school, but I definitely don't understand/support the booing/heckling/taunting of our own players, especially on our home court.

I am all for discussing/debating players, coaches, management, ownership, team name, uniforms, cheerleaders, arena, schedule, roster moves, draft picks, etc... away from the game action.

However, even if there is a player that I personally hate (within the confines of sports) and wish would no longer be part of the team I support, I will still cheer for him as long as he's wearing my team's jersey!

The NBA is a team sport and I support the Raptors. Whether I am at the game, watching it on tv, or following the action on my laptop/ipad/phone, I will always 100% cheer for the Raptors and every Raptors player. I can personally differentiate between having a right to my opinion away from the in-game action and being a supportive fan during the game.

[slaw]

I wonder if there was this much angst when the ACC was chanting "fire Wilson" last year. And low and behold, the chanting worked.

Fans have far more power than they think they do. It's both good and bad.

I know that in Calgary, the Flames owners are terrified of rebuilding because their season tickets holders tell them they won't buy suites, etc. to watch a "young guns" team. So, despite the fact they desperately need a rebuild, the fans won't let them.

If Raptors fans stopped going to games and started chanting FIRE BC every night, the organization feels both the pain in the wallet and the embarassment. It doesn't guarantee change but it puts enormous pressure on the owners to make it stop. And despite what many people here think, owners et al. do pay attention to waht fans are saying (and chanting).

Booing your own players isn't particularly pleasant but it has a storied history going back to the days of gladiators. It's not like we kill them at the end or anything either....

[heinz57]

Dates at raptor games have always worked out well for me, costly, but more fun than other dates, but then I may not be the best judge

i found that the big problem was the allocation of my attention... like, you know when you go with your friends... there's certain beats to a game... you kind of instinctually know when idle conversation happens and when it doesnt... you know when you're supposed to be paying attention, and when you can start pointing out the hot chick a few rows in front of you is showing ample thong..

she had no effing clue... asking questions on fast breaks.. then during timeouts would be quiet... it was a whole lot of awkward

[p00ka]

All those people complaining about the booing, can buy tickets to the next game and cheer. What are we thought police? Even haters are allowed to buy tickets. If you want to show your disgust do so in person.

Hate to say it, but the people with tickets can do as they wish. I am not going to judge them, cheer for Lin, be a Laker fan, go for the slice. Being embarrassed for someone else is so teen.

Have you ever heard the expression that just because you can do something, it doesn't mean that you should? The last thing he'd done prior to stepping on the court to boos, was go strong to the basket, got fouled in the air, and took a tumble to an injury. Some people at RR suffer the delusion that AB is a cancer in the locker room, but people in the know say the that's nothing but a load of crap. What kind of message do you think the classless booing sends to the other players? I'm sure Rudy is real impressed by those fans, and is inspired to play hard for them.

[p00ka]

That is fine, if you want to call my perspective immature and classless it is your right as well.


You can decide the baseline for how you deal with others, and categorize them as you wish.... but chances are you did not have a ticket for that game, and are now acting like a little girl whose feelings are hurt.

I'd say it's more like acting like an adult trying to convey some maturity and decency to little girls like you.

[p00ka]

This same kind of thing can be said about a forum, how dare you criticize derozan, AA, etc... You are not raptor fan, lada lada. Where do we draw the line?

If you want to think half of the ACC are douchbags, you can, but it just makes for an angry existence, mistrust of people, and perhaps reading kaczyniski's manifesto. Or you can just accept it, and realize that fans are fans and they are all cool. Regardless of their thoughts on Derozan, booing, or pizza slices. It's just a game in the end, no need to guide your morality by it, or use it as an excuse to control others behavior.

Nobody is "trying to control". Just commenting on how stupid and classless it was under the circumstances.

[p00ka]

To call paying fans idiots is a bit ignorant. I wasn't at the game but I would've been right there with those voicing their displeasure for a player I don't want on the team I follow. Jose did everything that was asked of him and was in difficult situations throughout majority of his time here. Andrea has hype to live up to because of where he was picked (not his fault) but the underachieving is secondary. The primary reason I would boo is to tell BC it's time to give up the pipe dream. Side note: it shouldn't have been that hard to stay in game shape. Didn't have a leg injury.

You're an idiot. There's a reason they call it "game shape". You need to play actual games to get there, especially after 2 months of not even being able to scrimmage.

[BasketballCrush]

Nobody is "trying to control". Just commenting on how stupid and classless it was under the circumstances.

Again that is your opinion, those people put their money where their mouth was. I know a season ticket holder that has invested over 300K into the team, and he does not mind booing Andrea, and I think he is far from classless.

You can't have it both ways, if booing is too much of an emotional investment for you, than so must be cheering. It's not like world hunger is getting eliminated before our eyes, why would anyone put so much emotion into a game? The idea that one can only express pleasure is your limited idea of what is proper at the venue.


I think a paying fan can do as they please. Like I said I get weary of people such as yourself who judge others but yet you could not be bothered to be there, much less buy season tickets for 10 years to support this team. There is a reason why fans want Andrea traded, its not because he lacks talent, or is what he is, its because they have seen him play with motivation and without and at this stage feel that a professional should be capable of being motivated for every game.


I don't think life is that simple, judging morality by a booing sports fan is a little whacky IMO. I think you are still a pup.

[BasketballCrush]

I'd say it's more like acting like an adult trying to convey some maturity and decency to little girls like you.

LOL, I am not the one getting emotionally distressed by fans booing Andrea.(You remind me of "leave Brittney alone")


Have you even been to other sporting venues in North America? ACC fans classless? Are you kidding me, you still have so much to learn about life.

[NoPropsneeded]

i found that the big problem was the allocation of my attention... like, you know when you go with your friends... there's certain beats to a game... you kind of instinctually know when idle conversation happens and when it doesnt... you know when you're supposed to be paying attention, and when you can start pointing out the hot chick a few rows in front of you is showing ample thong..

she had no effing clue... asking questions on fast breaks.. then during timeouts would be quiet... it was a whole lot of awkward

Lol I don't think it would work for me. I'd probably get pissed and tell her to F off lol, I get intense during games

[NoPropsneeded]

Philly fans boo their team if they play like shit...

[p00ka]

Again that is your opinion, those people put their money where their mouth was. I know a season ticket holder that has invested over 300K into the team, and he does not mind booing Andrea, and I think he is far from classless.

You can't have it both ways, if booing is too much of an emotional investment for you, than so must be cheering. It's not like world hunger is getting eliminated before our eyes, why would anyone put so much emotion into a game? The idea that one can only express pleasure is your limited idea of what is proper at the venue.


I think a paying fan can do as they please. Like I said I get weary of people such as yourself who judge others but yet you could not be bothered to be there, much less buy season tickets for 10 years to support this team. There is a reason why fans want Andrea traded, its not because he lacks talent, or is what he is, its because they have seen him play with motivation and without and at this stage feel that a professional should be capable of being motivated for every game.


I don't think life is that simple, judging morality by a booing sports fan is a little whacky IMO. I think you are still a pup.

"The idea that one can only express pleasure is your limited idea of what is proper at the venue."
You miss the point entirely, and I can't be bothered to explain to someone that judges morality by what Romans did at the Colliseum.

"Like I said I get weary of people such as yourself who judge others but yet you could not be bothered to be there, much less buy season tickets for 10 years to support this team."
You assume way too much as fact, little grasshopper, and only make an ass of u in doing so.

"There is a reason why fans want Andrea traded...."
My points have nothing to do with people having an opinion of wanting Bargs gone. Again, the point flies over your head. The point is about people acting like fn adults when a player comes back from injury, not like drunken fools who don't know what dignity is.

"I think you are still a pup."
LOLOLOLOLOL, I wish, but you keep up your narrative if it helps you.

LOL, I am not the one getting emotionally distressed by fans booing Andrea.(You remind me of "leave Brittney alone")


Have you even been to other sporting venues in North America? ACC fans classless? Are you kidding me, you still have so much to learn about life.

Well, I try to learn something every day. You should try getting your nose out of the air and realize you don't know it all either. Based on your childish attitudes (or is that drunken fool), I'd bet anything that I've been around a LOT longer than you, and experienced more than enough in life to not be shallow enough to get anything out of booing a player coming back from injury, before he even fn plays. And for the record, since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem, anything I've said about this topic is directed specifically at the childish/drunken fools that booed, not "ACC fans" in general.

[p00ka]

Philly fans boo their team if they play like shit...

He was off for 2 months from injury, and hadn't played a single possession yet. If he had played, and like shit, fair game if that works for you (child or drunk), but what went down is equivalent to booing when I player gets up from injury. Sheer stupidity, and classless.

[Deadallus]

I'm not the biggest Andrea fan around here but the reaction that AB got tonight was EMBARASSING. You don't boo your own players PERIOD.

It's not his fault that he didn't live up to his 1st overall pick expectation. But he's still a good player. If you want to boo, boo Colangelo or Gherardini.

AB just came from an injury. 1st game back after 2 months and you boo him? guess what, he's the Raps 2nd best player tonight. And i think he's the Raps 2nd best player overall.

Stay classy Raptors fans.

Why? Because Raptors fans are retarded.

[isaacthompson]

Can we all just agree everyone on this forum is bipolar? When we do well, we praise. When we don't do well, we shit on them.

[Deadallus]

I think the boo-ers should have at least let the guy play a bit before resorting to the boos. It wasn't just him that played like crap before he got hurt, the whole team was garbage. He was actually busting his ass out there on D, although he looked a little lost on O.

I'm guessing a few of the boo-ers probably second guessed themselves at the end of the game. and were probably cheering their ass off when he cut through the lane and threw one down.

[BasketballCrush]

"The idea that one can only express pleasure is your limited idea of what is proper at the venue."
You miss the point entirely, and I can't be bothered to explain to someone that judges morality by what Romans did at the Colliseum.

"Like I said I get weary of people such as yourself who judge others but yet you could not be bothered to be there, much less buy season tickets for 10 years to support this team."
You assume way too much as fact, little grasshopper, and only make an ass of u in doing so.

"There is a reason why fans want Andrea traded...."
My points have nothing to do with people having an opinion of wanting Bargs gone. Again, the point flies over your head. The point is about people acting like fn adults when a player comes back from injury, not like drunken fools who don't know what dignity is.

"I think you are still a pup."
LOLOLOLOLOL, I wish, but you keep up your narrative if it helps you.




Well, I try to learn something every day. You should try getting your nose out of the air and realize you don't know it all either. Based on your childish attitudes (or is that drunken fool), I'd bet anything that I've been around a LOT longer than you, and experienced more than enough in life to not be shallow enough to get anything out of booing a player coming back from injury, before he even fn plays. And for the record, since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem, anything I've said about this topic is directed specifically at the childish/drunken fools that booed, not "ACC fans" in general.

Kid in my experience with life, those that judge others for not being classy are usually the least classy of all.


You obviously are having a "leave Britteny alone moment" I still can't believe you are going on about this. Nothing you will say will keep sports fans from booing or cheering. You can twist your panties in a knot every time it happens but in the end it is your coping skills and maturity that are the issue.

How old are you 12? Getting all disturbed because fans at an arena are booing...

[p00ka]

Kid in my experience with life, those that judge others for not being classy are usually the least classy of all.


You obviously are having a "leave Britteny alone moment" I still can't believe you are going on about this. Nothing you will say will keep sports fans from booing or cheering. You can twist your panties in a knot every time it happens but in the end it is your coping skills and maturity that are the issue.

How old are you 12? Getting all disturbed because fans at an arena are booing...

Okay, so you're not a kid yourself, it would seem. You're a jack.... I came nowhere near "all disturbed". A topic was posted here inviting discussion on the booing of AB when he stepped on the floor. I gave my opinion that it was a childish (in a bad parenting kind of way), classless way of acting like civilized human beings, period. You think people who buy a ticket have a right to act with the civility of Romans at the Colliseum. I get it. We're at different ends of the spectrum.

BUT, you're funny trying to lay this "disturbed" "judgement" thing on me. Take a look at our exchange, and if you wish to compare notes about where judgements are being pulled out of the air, and out of your ass, I'd be glad to have an objective, adult, less judgemental (not "non", we're both human, lad). You've been babbling more than I, about judging me in ways unrelated to the topic, and of which you have not a fn clue about reality, while continually skirting my rebuttal points, and re-directing the conversation to your simplistic declarations. "Disturbed". FN hilarious. Pompous psycho babble is your internet thing, eh. LOL.

[BasketballCrush]

Please take a look at our exchange, I am giving valid reasons why fans may be booing Andrea, and you are giving your judgments as to who is classy and who is not.


I get it, you are the best, the classiest, the most knowledgeable, perhaps you should write a manifesto on how fans should behave at sporting venues. Maybe it will catch on, or maybe no one will care and things will be like they have always been.


My stance, is that you can't judge another raptor fan for his/her motives. That is the basic premise of giving another human being respect to decide their own actions. When someone boos next to me, it is their action, I do not feel emberessed or compelled to do as they do. I don't judge them, because maybe they have a take on the situation that I do not understand, I need to give them the benefit of the doubt. To me that is classy. Allowing another person to be themselves. Let them cry, smile, dance, ahhh, sigh, and boo their displeasure if need be.

You on the other hand are making divisive judgments about other fans class because you do not understand/or agree with their opinion actions. Perhaps this is to demonstrate how much better you are than everyone else, I have no idea, but in my experience games are entertainment, booing happens and will continue to happen.

I get it you are the best, the rightest. We should all be like you.