It would be easier to flip Gasol (who is injured) because he has an expiring contract next year.
I don't really think Boozer adds too many wins and playoffs next year would still not be a guarantee.
I don't know.. I am still dreaming about Millsap, and if that doesn't work out then Gasol (because of his expiring contract next season).
I'm not entirely sold on Boozer being a good deal for Bargnani (far from it, actually), but I had a thought about killing two birds with one stone, to take advantage of the CBA's total salary matching rules.
2 trades in 1: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bdourgz
Part 1: Toronto & Chicago
TO CHICAGO - Bargnani, Kleiza, Lucas
TO TORONTO - Boozer, Teague, 1st round pick
Part 2: Toronto & Minnesota
TO MINNESOTA - Anderson, 2014 2nd round pick (could possibly add another 2nd round pick)
TO TORONTO - Ridnour
- they apparently initiated talks, so they want Bargnani for Boozer
- Lucas is a 'win now' improvement over Teague, and could be cut after the season to save money
- even with Kleiza, the deal is roughly even money this year and next, but they save about $5M in 2014-15
- they get help at the SG position and a 2nd round pick (could be Toronto's or Sacramento's, since Toronto owns both in 2014)
- if Anderson walks after the season, they save $4.3M next season
- improve 3 positions: starting PF, backup PG and 3rd string PG
- dump Kleiza's salary without needing to pay him (as they would via amnesty)
- dump Anderson, clearing up the logjam at the wing
- lose a 2nd round pick in 2014 (they'd still have one), but gain a 1st round pick
I'm still unsure about trading Bargnani for Boozer, but I could certainly live with a deal like this, which provides additional benefits for the Raptors (Ridnour, Teague and a 1st round pick).
Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Fri Feb 8th, 2013 at 12:39 AM.
I do love the idea of having Lowry/Ridnour/Teague as a PG line though.
A key that opens many locks is a master key, but a lock that gets open by many keys is just a shitty lock
The only way the trade could work like that is if Kleiza is included (going to either Chicago or Minnesota), otherwise Toronto would be taking back too much salary.
I also thought that Minnesota would be more likely to bite on an Anderson & 2nd round pick for Ridnour deal, if they didn't have to take on any additonal salary, which they would if it was a straight-up 2-team trade.
Ridnour is one of the only assets Wolves have on the table, but they kinda suck offensively especially with no Love (lol) It could be probable they take that deal.
Boozer is an instant 15-10. Raptors are 28th in the league in rebounding, Boozer will definitely help the raps in this department.
Financial-wise, I may be wrong, but it seems BC is lining up his contracts to get off the books in 2014 which would probably be the 2nd biggest free agent splash since the James/Bosh/Wade FA class.
Im guessing BC is hoping that by that time his young guns have already found their niche in the NBA and are solid core pieces towards a contending team, and with the cap space, he will be able to sign big name free agents, in the hopes as well that gay, boozer, amir and lowry will sign for less.
Does this make sense?
Last edited by TheGloveinRapsUniform; Fri Feb 8th, 2013 at 12:56 AM.
BUT, you're funny trying to lay this "disturbed" "judgement" thing on me. Take a look at our exchange, and if you wish to compare notes about where judgements are being pulled out of the air, and out of your ass, I'd be glad to have an objective, adult, less judgemental (not "non", we're both human, lad). You've been babbling more than I, about judging me in ways unrelated to the topic, and of which you have not a fn clue about reality, while continually skirting my rebuttal points, and re-directing the conversation to your simplistic declarations. "Disturbed". FN hilarious. Pompous psycho babble is your internet thing, eh. LOL.
Know basketball, know fun. No basketball, no fun.
come that 2014 free agency its imparitve we resign Gay and Lowry lock them up.
Last edited by Rapstor4Life; Fri Feb 8th, 2013 at 01:29 AM.
Boozer has the type of talent the Raptors need, and moving Bargs would finally....FINALLY give us a traditional PF on on both D and O, but and I can't beleive I'm saying this I think I would actually hold onto Bargs in this situation. Boozer is past his prime and all I keep thinking about is how he left Clevland high and dry when he left for Utah and how he forced his way out of Utah when he wanted out of there. Seems like a guy that if he isn't happy he's going to let everyone know about it.
I realize going after David West or Milsap/Jefferson won't solve the Bargs issue, but I'm not sure Boozer is the answer.
Please take a look at our exchange, I am giving valid reasons why fans may be booing Andrea, and you are giving your judgments as to who is classy and who is not.
I get it, you are the best, the classiest, the most knowledgeable, perhaps you should write a manifesto on how fans should behave at sporting venues. Maybe it will catch on, or maybe no one will care and things will be like they have always been.
My stance, is that you can't judge another raptor fan for his/her motives. That is the basic premise of giving another human being respect to decide their own actions. When someone boos next to me, it is their action, I do not feel emberessed or compelled to do as they do. I don't judge them, because maybe they have a take on the situation that I do not understand, I need to give them the benefit of the doubt. To me that is classy. Allowing another person to be themselves. Let them cry, smile, dance, ahhh, sigh, and boo their displeasure if need be.
You on the other hand are making divisive judgments about other fans class because you do not understand/or agree with their opinion actions. Perhaps this is to demonstrate how much better you are than everyone else, I have no idea, but in my experience games are entertainment, booing happens and will continue to happen.
I get it you are the best, the rightest. We should all be like you.
Y'all be trippin'
#JVIsABoss #RudyGayTime #DeRozanGoingHAM #AirAmirJohnson #KLow
Boozer is cash money from mid range. With that Rainbow Jumpshot of his
#JVIsABoss #RudyGayTime #DeRozanGoingHAM #AirAmirJohnson #KLow
Dude is stalking me and being a pain in the ass with his righteousness...
if you think bargnani is an overpaid heartless bum wait till you see Booz cost to his 15 million pulling more shameful shit at both ends than a late raptors era Vince Carter.
"Analytics has a place. It can’t be the be all end all. I’m still trying to figure out when the Oakland Athletics won a championship with all the analytics they have."
—Coach Hollins, who is a better basketball mind than you are.
Don't know if that is completely accurate but close. That is a damn good core when everyone is that age if the rookies hit their potential and we add a piece or 2. I'd much rather see Bargs go for something with an eye on the future. Truth be told I'd rather see DeRozan go, as he has more value, giving Ross more time to blossom. Bargs could be a great stretch 4 off the bench, on a really good team.
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