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    People should be Cheering for Bargs if they liked the Rudy Gay trade.
    Its because of his injury that Ed got to play his way into a legit trade piece.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    People should be Cheering for Bargs if they liked the Rudy Gay trade.
    Its because of his injury that Ed got to play his way into a legit trade piece.
    haha good point! I never thought about it like that.

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    Booing Bargnani is just not right. Sure, if he misses a certain game winner or gets injured we all would be angry. That doesn't mean you have to boo the man after all the memories hes had with Toronto.

    Living up to the hype of being the first draft pick is never easy. How many players have actually come out as the "best in the draft" and emerged as the best in that draft class. Almost never happens. Not a good move to boo him, fans

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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    I'm not the biggest Andrea fan around here but the reaction that AB got tonight was EMBARASSING. You don't boo your own players PERIOD.

    It's not his fault that he didn't live up to his 1st overall pick expectation. But he's still a good player. If you want to boo, boo Colangelo or Gherardini.

    AB just came from an injury. 1st game back after 2 months and you boo him? guess what, he's the Raps 2nd best player tonight. And i think he's the Raps 2nd best player overall.

    Stay classy Raptors fans.
    They still lost. If you pay to go to game you have every right to express your opinion.

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    Quote DoNDaDDa wrote: View Post
    visiting players are prob. thinking if they were in the crowd they'd be booing bargs too.. his lack of work ethic is well known around the league hence why hes still on our team!
    When was the last time you saw AB dive for a loose ball. PEOPLE work hard to pay for their tickets and just want a full and honest effort. That's it.....if AB improves his hustle he will get cheers. There were a couple of times last night he could have got a rebound but did not mostly due to lack of effort and committment to rebounding.

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    Quote Reyaz123 wrote: View Post
    Booing Bargnani is just not right. Sure, if he misses a certain game winner or gets injured we all would be angry. That doesn't mean you have to boo the man after all the memories hes had with Toronto.

    Living up to the hype of being the first draft pick is never easy. How many players have actually come out as the "best in the draft" and emerged as the best in that draft class. Almost never happens. Not a good move to boo him, fans
    What good memories?

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    Quote Bouncepass wrote: View Post
    Give whatever excuse you want, but booing a specific Raptor who is coming back from an injury is completely classless. I thought it was embarrassing for the Raptors' fans.
    Yup.
    Anyone who boos the home team or any of its players has zero class and is acting like a douche whether he wants to admit it or not.
    Anyone who wonders why this is so, or needs an explanation as to why the "i paid for my ticket therefore I can do whatever the hell I want" argument is just irresponsible and immature. Yeah I said it

    "I PAID for my ticket so I can do whatever I want!" --- f*%ck outta here!

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    Quote OldSchool wrote: View Post
    Yup.
    Anyone who boos the home team or any of its players has zero class and is acting like a douche whether he wants to admit it or not.
    Anyone who wonders why this is so, or needs an explanation as to why the "i paid for my ticket therefore I can do whatever the hell I want" argument is just irresponsible and immature. Yeah I said it

    "I PAID for my ticket so I can do whatever I want!" --- f*%ck outta here!
    What do you suggest a paying fan do if he is unhappy with a players or coaches or gm's job performance ? Do nothing , accept it with indifference or express one's displeasure?

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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    It's interesting using the word "classless", because showing class requires an effort. Which means what you're really saying is that it takes an amount of effort to not boo Bargnani. As in, he deserves it but people should show some class and hold back.

    Well, if that's the case then I come back to you with another word -- dignity. Have a little self respect for yourself. Here is a guy who, if he isn't traded will have sucked $71M out of the Toronto Raptors by the end of his contract.

    Taking the following criteria of being 7' with average of 25+ minutes per game, here is where Bargnani ranks in the history of the NBA:
    - dead last in rebounds per game
    - 5th worst all time in FG%
    - 7th worst all time in blocks
    - 1st all time in 3 pointers attempted

    You'll want to argue that this is Colangelo's fault, but the problem with that is Bargnani has the ability to be so much better. Unfortunately he just doesn't care. Plus booing Bargnani is booing Colangelo.

    And then we have fans like you who are putting up an effort to take more. It's like pointing at the guy, turning around and bending over so he can take you right up your rear end. You're sitting in the stands, hearing guys stand up for themselves and their city and instead you think to yourself ""I have class" and do nothing. What's worse is you come to the forums to rant about this.

    I'm sorry, but if that means I have no class, then I don't want to have class in this situation. I'd rather leave the arena with some dignity and I'm glad some fans feel the same way. If this had been anyone else, I can understand but frankly I'm fed up. This is Andrea Bargnani we're talking about.

    Cc to old school

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    obviously he's had his highs and lows with the team even stuck it out with them while they were in the playoffs

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    Quote psrs1 wrote: View Post
    ebrian wrote:
    It's interesting using the word "classless", because showing class requires an effort. Which means what you're really saying is that it takes an amount of effort to not boo Bargnani. As in, he deserves it but people should show some class and hold back.

    Well, if that's the case then I come back to you with another word -- dignity. Have a little self respect for yourself. Here is a guy who, if he isn't traded will have sucked $71M out of the Toronto Raptors by the end of his contract.

    Taking the following criteria of being 7' with average of 25+ minutes per game, here is where Bargnani ranks in the history of the NBA:
    - dead last in rebounds per game
    - 5th worst all time in FG%
    - 7th worst all time in blocks
    - 1st all time in 3 pointers attempted

    You'll want to argue that this is Colangelo's fault, but the problem with that is Bargnani has the ability to be so much better. Unfortunately he just doesn't care. Plus booing Bargnani is booing Colangelo.

    And then we have fans like you who are putting up an effort to take more. It's like pointing at the guy, turning around and bending over so he can take you right up your rear end. You're sitting in the stands, hearing guys stand up for themselves and their city and instead you think to yourself ""I have class" and do nothing. What's worse is you come to the forums to rant about this.

    I'm sorry, but if that means I have no class, then I don't want to have class in this situation. I'd rather leave the arena with some dignity and I'm glad some fans feel the same way. If this had been anyone else, I can understand but frankly I'm fed up. This is Andrea Bargnani we're talking about.

    Cc to old school
    On a flight to the states a few years back some fat, obnoxious slob wouldn't stop harrassing one of the stewardesses. Earlier she had accidentally spilt a beverage on his shoe and even though she offered to clean up what she could and after countless appologies the dude still wouldn't let up. "lousy flight!, get me this get me that, pathetic service!" blah blah blah until finally a few of the other passengers had to 'speak' with him. Now obviously this man felt short-changed with his overall flight experience..after all, he did PAY for his ticket. He wasn't pleased with one of the employees as well so ofcourse he had to put his foot down and let it be known. Someone has to stand up and show these servers what time it was...and dammit it was gonna be him. Why? well if anything because he has the dignity to stand up for his beliefs...bad form and just that. Bad form. Someone shoulda smacked some sense into him in retrospect.

    Ok terrible example but one of experiences that comes to mind.

    Booing your own damn team does not serve you. It not only affects the player your booing but his teammates, staff and everyone out there who are busting their buts trying to make this work. Some say booing is usefull because it can run the guy right outta town, but really thats BS too. What are you? a freakin lynch mob? you don't like a guy so you're gonna cause a ruckus, boo him and run him outta town? yeah real dignified! Ill never understand these people who feel that booing, showing your hate and spreading negativity is actually helping...I don't get it. The only thing I can think of is ...well it makes you feel good. It makes you feel dignified but forget how it effects everyone else. Someone needs to smack some sense in you selfish fools.

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    Quote OldSchool wrote: View Post
    On a flight to the states a few years back some fat, obnoxious slob wouldn't stop harrassing one of the stewardesses. Earlier she had accidentally spilt a beverage on his shoe and even though she offered to clean up what she could and after countless appologies the dude still wouldn't let up. "lousy flight!, get me this get me that, pathetic service!" blah blah blah until finally a few of the other passengers had to 'speak' with him. Now obviously this man felt short-changed with his overall flight experience..after all, he did PAY for his ticket. He wasn't pleased with one of the employees as well so ofcourse he had to put his foot down and let it be known. Someone has to stand up and show these servers what time it was...and dammit it was gonna be him. Why? well if anything because he has the dignity to stand up for his beliefs...bad form and just that. Bad form. Someone shoulda smacked some sense into him in retrospect.

    Ok terrible example but one of experiences that comes to mind.

    Booing your own damn team does not serve you. It not only affects the player your booing but his teammates, staff and everyone out there who are busting their buts trying to make this work. Some say booing is usefull because it can run the guy right outta town, but really thats BS too. What are you? a freakin lynch mob? you don't like a guy so you're gonna cause a ruckus, boo him and run him outta town? yeah real dignified! Ill never understand these people who feel that booing, showing your hate and spreading negativity is actually helping...I don't get it. The only thing I can think of is ...well it makes you feel good. It makes you feel dignified but forget how it effects everyone else.
    **Slow clap**

    (Note that I did remove the part about slapping people. No clap for that part. I don't condone violence.)
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    I think we're all being a tad sensitive. Fans have booed teams, players, coaches (in any sport) since the beginning of time. Nothing new here. Whether Bargnani, as a person, genuinely deserved it or not is completely irrelevant. The ACC will reign down boos at some point in the future too....it's an inevitability.

    IMO, I'm just glad the fan base is passionate enough to react one way or the other. I'd be much more disappointed if the crowd showed complete disinterest...like they do in Philips Arena.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I think we're all being a tad sensitive. Fans have booed teams, players, coaches (in any sport) since the beginning of time. Nothing new here. Whether Bargnani, as a person, genuinely deserved it or not is completely irrelevant. The ACC will reign down boos at some point in the future too....it's an inevitability.

    IMO, I'm just glad the fan base is passionate enough to react one way or the other. I'd be much more disappointed if the crowd showed complete disinterest...like they do in Philips Arena.
    You're right. I guess it does come off as a bit sensitive. To tell you the truth, although I don't approve of all the booing, Im really not that phased by it all. What frustrates me is how people feel that just because they purchased a ticket they think that gives them the green light to do whatever the hell they want without care of how it effects everyone else. Ill stand up to that ugliness everytime.

    You're also right about the passion. Theres always gonna be knuckleheads out there and there'll be more booing for sure but at least we got passion.

    To tell you the truth, Ive always been proud of our fan base. Even through all the crappy seasons we've always had top level attendance, some of the loudest fans and at least all the booing shows great passion aswell.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    **Slow clap**

    (Note that I did remove the part about slapping people. No clap for that part. I don't condone violence.)
    lol "slapping fools" is probably a bit too far

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    People boo the players or the team because they don't get to boo the Managment for the product on the floor. By doing so it sends the message that they are unhappy with the product. It is misguided and uproductive but people are paying money to be entertained and if they aren't entertained well they got to let off some steam.

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    Well, after a performance like tonight, and basically no effort on either end, take back the question.

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    I'd just like to point out that the fans of one of the best teams in the league, in the Mecca of Basketball, was booing their team last night during a close game.

    If there's anyone out there who can find a Knicks message board complaining about the boos, they win a prize!
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'd just like to point out that the fans of one of the best teams in the league, in the Mecca of Basketball, was booing their team last night during a close game.

    If there's anyone out there who can find a Knicks message board complaining about the boos, they win a prize!
    Wow, give it up already. Still feeling a need to defend booing an injured player in his first game back by equating it to booing a whole team that stunk up the joint for a full game?

    No one is even talking about this anymore. Not sure what you're trying to prove.
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    Commentary: you can get away with a lot more when you have a tradition of winning. Same action is going to be interpreted different ways.

    Personally, I didn't boo at any of the few games I've been too and probably would never... but the main reason is why invest so much emotion into something that I feel the urge to express negative feelings at individuals who have no tangible impact on my life? Not to be condescending, but I kind of feel sorry for anybody that wrapped up that they absolutely have to boo. If you're just booing for fun, then whatever, to each his own, rofl

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