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    lol I think leafs nation is rubbing off on some raptors fans, delusional.

    Like Jack always says, "git that garbage outta here"

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    (Canadian Press) - Fastapasta Productions, a Toronto based film production company, is developing THE BARGNANI STORY: MAGO NO MAGO WHERE IS THE MAGO, a tv movie of the week.

    Pablo Schreiber, best known for his role as troubled brooding dock worker Nick Sobotka on The Wire, has been penned to play the role of Bargnani.

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    Quote DoNDaDDa wrote: View Post
    maybe they need to take primo off the pasta & get him on a vegan diet or some shit...LOL
    yup, I'd never thought I'd say this, but he should take a page out of stoudemires book......

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knick...mpE2Kqf1aGYGOM

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    Quote Craiger wrote: View Post


    To the bolded - putting financial issues aside (which are still important), there should unquestionably be less importance put on players with smaller roles than those with larger roles. But, this organization has yet to prove they actually view Bargnani any different than the always have. I know Colangelo has said alot in regards to Bargnani or this team, but he always says alot without it necessarily being reflected on the court or how he runs the organization.
    This is the most valid point I've heard about this issue.

    It's one thing to say "he's played one game with some effort and already you appreciate him bla bla bla"...it's an irrelevant point.

    What is relevant is that Bargnani's role on the team has changed (if he stays) and that's already been decided. The question is can he and the organization make the shift mentally. It's not so simple after all these years.

    Bottom line is, you cannot argue that ANY player in the NBA, if he has the proper role and responsibility can help a team. The question is always if that player will accept their role in the pecking order, and if the organization sees where they are supposed to fit.

    he is not arujo...he will go to another team, and will probably be valuable as a 7th-9th man.

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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    lol I think leafs nation is rubbing off on some raptors fans, delusional.

    Like Jack always says, "git that garbage outta here"
    I'm actually not really a leafs fan.....

    I just don't see how anyway can argue that he is not a valuable 9th man?

    I 'm not saying he's that good, or we shouldn't trade him, I'm just saying if we can't, what makes him any worse than some other guy who comes in and plays that role?

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    Quote BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    I've hated him for a while (still do) but last night's effort from him made me look at the positives

    1. Arguably the best one on one post defender on the team
    2. Mobile big to spell Amir (instead of AIRon)
    3. 7 footer who can shoot 3's and score in bunches in limited minutes if he is on

    as a 7th-9th man, why can't there be a place for him?

    let the bashing begin!
    You can't commit 10M on your 7th-9th man. Period.

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    Quote Fanchie wrote: View Post
    You can't commit 10M on your 7th-9th man. Period.
    The New York Yankees will beg to differ.

    Edit: The Yankees' payroll is $206M. Mariano Rivera is making $10m next year and he's only the 10th highest paid player on the team. Goodness gracious, baseball needs to be fixed.
    Last edited by ebrian; Thu Feb 7th, 2013 at 02:45 PM.
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    Quote Fanchie wrote: View Post
    You can't commit 10M on your 7th-9th man. Period.
    He should be the 4th scoring option. He has the proper offensive to be one.

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    I just want to point out that he looks a little more bad ass with the sleeve.
    Eh follow my TWITTER!

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    Quote BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    I've hated him for a while (still do) but last night's effort from him made me look at the positives

    1. Arguably the best one on one post defender on the team
    2. Mobile big to spell Amir (instead of AIRon)
    3. 7 footer who can shoot 3's and score in bunches in limited minutes if he is on

    as a 7th-9th man, why can't there be a place for him?

    let the bashing begin!
    Bargnani should be the 2nd option on this team offensively behind Rudy Gay. He is our 2nd most talented player, and can be a beast as a 6th man. I am going out on a limb and saying that I don't think he is going to get traded, and he is going to flourish on this team as a 2nd option behind Gay.

    His man on man defense in the post is very good, he is a gifted scorer, someone who has been the #1 option on a team before, he is in his prime, and with Amir johnson in the game his lack of help defense is mitigated.

    Sorry guys but blaming the entire teams woes over the last 3 years on one guy doesn't make sense, I'm not buying it. Viva Bargnani!

    Bargnani, I missed him, we need him.
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    Quote SuperRaptor wrote: View Post
    ...we need him.
    No we don't.

    Any team that "needs" a low-efficiency, lethargic, 7-footer allergic to the paint (on both ends of the floor) has some serious issues.

    This team has a lot of needs....but Bargnani isn't one of them.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    No we don't.

    Any team that "needs" a low-efficiency, lethargic, 7-footer allergic to the paint (on both ends of the floor) has some serious issues.

    This team has a lot of needs....but Bargnani isn't one of them.
    Someone shooting around 45% for his career from the field and 36% from 3pt line for his career is not "low efficiency" he is the 2nd most talented guy on this team, giving him up for nothing is not smart.

    We heard Casey talk to the media following the loss yesterday to the Celtics saying that we need more scoring from the bench, this is the answer. If a trade gets done including bargnani that improves our team I am down for it. But an offensive lineup including Derozan, Gay, and Bargnani could be formidable, and its time to see how it plays out.
    "Defense wins championships."

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    Quote SuperRaptor wrote: View Post
    Someone shooting around 45% for his career from the field and 36% from 3pt line for his career is not "low efficiency" he is the 2nd most talented guy on this team, giving him up for nothing is not smart.

    We heard Casey talk to the media following the loss yesterday to the Celtics saying that we need more scoring from the bench, this is the answer. If a trade gets done including bargnani that improves our team I am down for it. But an offensive lineup including Derozan, Gay, and Bargnani could be formidable, and its time to see how it plays out.
    so being 27th in defense isn't enough? trying to aim for 30th?

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    Quote akashsingh wrote: View Post
    so being 27th in defense isn't enough? trying to aim for 30th?
    If the reason why we suck defensively was because of Bargnani, how come our defense hasn't improved while he has been gone? We still suck defensively, that tells me that it is not entirely his fault. We played better defense in previous years while he was still on the team, the issue is something else. No need to crucify one of our most talented players because we are searching for answers.

    His defense looked pretty good to me in yesterday's game. And he was one of our most efficient scorers going 5 for 10 from the field, all that while having 2 months worth of rust on him. Give the guy a break, give the guy the ball, let him go to work.
    "Defense wins championships."

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    No we don't.

    Any team that "needs" a low-efficiency, lethargic, 7-footer allergic to the paint (on both ends of the floor) has some serious issues.

    This team has a lot of needs....but Bargnani isn't one of them.
    C'mon Lanka. We're trying to sell this clunker. Time to put on your best used car salesman face.... lol.

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    I said this before, i wouldn't trade AB just to get rid of him. The only way i trade him if i'm BC is if they could get a top 10 1st round pick or a young player with upside ala Derrick Williams.

    I wouldn't trade him for Pau Gasol.
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    Quote Employee wrote: View Post
    I just want to point out that he looks a little more bad ass with the sleeve.
    I noticed this as well

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    21hrs. ago on Twitter I posted this
    "Half the #Raptors fans 'maybe we should keep Bargani?' The other half 'we should trade him for Josh Smith and 1st' #facepalm"

    and I see I'm not wrong...ugh
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    No we don't.

    Any team that "needs" a low-efficiency, lethargic, 7-footer allergic to the paint (on both ends of the floor) has some serious issues.

    This team has a lot of needs....but Bargnani isn't one of them.
    I guess the bulls have some serious issues then

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    Quote SuperRaptor wrote: View Post
    Someone shooting around 45% for his career from the field and 36% from 3pt line for his career is not "low efficiency" he is the 2nd most talented guy on this team, giving him up for nothing is not smart.
    It is when you're talking about a 7 footer. Bargs ranked 5th worst all-time in FG% amongst 7 footers with 25+ mpg played over their career.
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