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    if BC can somehow work in a draft pick and/or heinrich.. i'd be elated

    heinrich is a stud.. and we need another quality PG

    if he doesn't get either of them.... meh.. don't care... wouldn't be impressed, or depressed... but picking up backup PGs on 10 day contracts for the rest of the season is going to suck on roko ukic levels

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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    Nobody is "trying to control". Just commenting on how stupid and classless it was under the circumstances.
    Again that is your opinion, those people put their money where their mouth was. I know a season ticket holder that has invested over 300K into the team, and he does not mind booing Andrea, and I think he is far from classless.

    You can't have it both ways, if booing is too much of an emotional investment for you, than so must be cheering. It's not like world hunger is getting eliminated before our eyes, why would anyone put so much emotion into a game? The idea that one can only express pleasure is your limited idea of what is proper at the venue.


    I think a paying fan can do as they please. Like I said I get weary of people such as yourself who judge others but yet you could not be bothered to be there, much less buy season tickets for 10 years to support this team. There is a reason why fans want Andrea traded, its not because he lacks talent, or is what he is, its because they have seen him play with motivation and without and at this stage feel that a professional should be capable of being motivated for every game.


    I don't think life is that simple, judging morality by a booing sports fan is a little whacky IMO. I think you are still a pup.

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    Quote Hugmenot wrote: View Post
    I can't say I am surprised Chicago want to get rid of Boozer because there were already rumors in the offseason they wanted Taj Gibson to become a starter.

    I am surprised at Chicago showing interest in Bargnani. It makes me think they believe Bargnani will be an easier contract to move tha Boozer's.

    Boozer 's FG% this year is a personal worst and a full 6% less than his career average. Like Gay, he's a risk but this is one I would not take.
    With the injury to Rose, that has a trickle down effect on the rest of the team. Things aren't going to be as easy without a talent like Rose on the floor.

    November and December was brutal to start the year but he came around in January.
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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    I'd say it's more like acting like an adult trying to convey some maturity and decency to little girls like you.

    LOL, I am not the one getting emotionally distressed by fans booing Andrea.(You remind me of "leave Brittney alone")


    Have you even been to other sporting venues in North America? ACC fans classless? Are you kidding me, you still have so much to learn about life.
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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Why? He's a Veteran Big that can rebound, score in the post, and muscle dudes around. I doubt we'll get anything better than this for "Banana"
    He's 31, wayyyyyyy overpaid, his defense is poor despite playing for Sloan and Thibs all these years, and he doesn't fit an up tempo game at all. Both defense (especially that he's only 6'9"), and ability to play up tempo are worse than AB. Now, depending on other pieces, maybe it makes more sense, but until we know.

    NOTE: Does it say anything to anybody that the Bulls initiated these "talks"?

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    If this goes down I'd be happy but wow really? Boozer is a piece for that championship hunt... and Bargnani is the wrong guy to play on a get down and dirty bulks team full of emotional guys like Noah

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    Quote mtth wrote: View Post
    I prefer Barg over Boozer with our actual line up. We need someone who can shoot the 3s and spread the defense, giving room for DD and RD. And we still need a back up PG please pretty please...
    That trade is a poor attempt by BC to save his ass.
    Pay attention: this rumour is coming out of Chicago, and word is that Chicago initiated talks. BC would not be a GM if he didn't say "what have you got in mind?", but he may well be laughing at Chicago. Damn, the NBA writer world knows how to up their hits: post shit that naive Raptors fans go ape on.

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    Boozer sucks but his contract is a lot shorter than Bargs and the ability to shed Bargs AND Kleiza's contract is pretty rad.

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    Quote DoNDaDDa wrote: View Post
    LOL weve had a champagne budget with a beer taste! LOL

    boozer is def better then bargs, that said if theres a better deal out there then do that, im not attached to boozer... he def is an upgrade though & would provide much better Defense, Rebounding & Post scoring thats for sure. Id also want Nate Robinson in the deal
    "better defense"? wrong

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    ESPN.com's Marc Stein first reported the talks, which a source told the Tribune were initiated by the Bulls and initially dismissed because of the Raptors' desire to land the Lakers' Pau Gasol. Though talks are not currently active, a source said the Raptors know the trade is available and could expand to include Nate Robinson and John Lucas III.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,1586359.story

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    I'm ok with this deal. Boozer gives us a lot of the things I think the team actually needs. I don't think we really need an athletic PF necessarily. With Gay, Demar, Ross and Fields, Gay and even Fields can both line up at PF to play small, and we're really athletic. We need low-post scoring, where Boozer is among the best in the league, right up there with guys like Jefferson and Gasol. We need rebounding...Boozer is a great rebounder, always has been. He's a fairly good passer, and also has decent range on his jumper. He's also got something I value really highly and wanted to get on this team all season: legitimate postseason experience. Been on teams in the playoffs many times, with varying levels of success. OH, and he's been part of maybe the best defence in teh league since he got to Chicago. I know he's not the best defensive PF, but he clearly hasn't hurt them too much, and while people might point to Noah and Gibson...well shouldn't JV and Amir project to fit similer roles well beside him? Not counting the fact JV obviously has more scoring potential than either of them.

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    It takes a team to play defense. Boozer was starting for the number 1 defense in the league. He clearly is no slouch at such an important position (in the post)
    You've never actually paid attention to his D, have you? You're being very naive if you think he provides solid D.

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a28zws9

    Boozer/Robinson

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    Bargnani/Lucas


    Draft pick included from Chicago and I'm good with it.
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    Quote p00ka wrote: View Post
    "better defense"? wrong
    Defense is a team thing that everyone has to commit to. Bargs' man D has been good for a couple of seasons now, but he just is very rarely engaged in playing team D, filling spaces and helping properly. He also doesn't rebound, which a lot of coaches try to tell guys is the most important part of D, because solid D doesn't matter if you can't get the ball. Boozer definitely rebounds, and he's clearly been committed enough to fit into maybe the best D in the league.

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    Gray should be in this trade?

    Are we really going to try and run boozer+amir+gray+jv?

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    I think this trade starts looking into next season. Lowry, Derozan, Gay, Boozer all under contract for next season, it's likely where things are happening.

    The more and more these trades start happening, I wouldn't be unhappy with re-signing BC. He looks to have a plan, because once Gay and Boozer expire, that's A LOT of money opening up. By that time, we'll have had winning experience with Gay, Boozer leading the way for the young group.

    With MLSE willing to spend, I don't put cap as an issue anymore. UNLESS, team is trying to get guys from free agency.

    Boozer this season without Rose has been awesome. With no one really dominating the ball in Chicago, the ball is getting moved around, and that's where Boozer fits the best. Low post threat, rebounder, not a great defender, but definitely an upgrade to Bargnani in general.

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    O god noo noo nottt thiss guyyyy!!

    we can pick him up from amnesty this offseason if anything :s

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a28zws9

    Boozer/Robinson

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    Bargnani/Lucas


    Draft pick included from Chicago and I'm good with it.
    I'm generally ok with it...we're still going to have issues at PG though. Robinson is an upgrade as a shoot-first PG...but we'd stil only be 2-deep. It would still leave a lot of pressure on Lowry to get people involved, and leave us needing a 3rd stringer...which is obviously better than needing a 2nd stringer though...

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    Quote mtth wrote: View Post
    I prefer Barg over Boozer with our actual line up. We need someone who can shoot the 3s and spread the defense, giving room for DD and RD. And we still need a back up PG please pretty please...
    That trade is a poor attempt by BC to save his ass.
    That could also be said about our post-up offense. We have no power inside and we have no one who can do the nasty work in the paint. Bargnani is too soft to get rebounds and shove people around. Val is still a rookie. Amir can do those things, but no as well as Boozer.

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    Quote saints91 wrote: View Post
    He's going to be close to retirement or severly declining when this team is ready to contend. Wrong age for this team. Millsap is the guy we need. I don't see it happening.
    I agree to some extent. I think Boozer will help this team in the next two years, but I want Millsap much much more!

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