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    Interesting Chicago perspective. People do weird things when it comes to the luxury tax.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bull...-inflexibility

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    Quote Raptorsnz wrote: View Post
    I feel like Boozer is the sort of player who would complain and hate coming to Toronto... Just a vibe I get from his personality.
    Ya I get that feeling too Where Gay came in humble with legitimate look of finally somewhere new I want to be here I dont think Boozer would look thrilled...

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    Boozer has 3 years left on his contract, this is considered moderate risk, high reward with his age given (31)
    with the toughness he brings Toronto really needed inside since losing Ed Davis.
    Either way, boozer has a contract that should keep our core group together

    Contracts:

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    Last edited by Reyaz123; Thu Feb 7th, 2013 at 09:52 PM.

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    If I get this straight, according to Matt52's post at 6:47 (?), these "talks" aren't active at all. When the "talks" took place, Chicago initiated them, whatever the other details were, BC dismissed the proposal. Now Stein is speculating that maybe the Raps might be interested if the "sweeten the pot" with Nate.

    We're talking about someone's speculation that Nate Robinson is suddenly going to change BC's mind by offering Lowry 2.0? Really? As I said in another post, internet NBA writers across the continent know how to up their hits, no matter how real/unreal the bullshit regarding the Raps is.
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    Give us marquis Teague and a first round pick and we'll do it
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    With the injury to Rose, that has a trickle down effect on the rest of the team. Things aren't going to be as easy without a talent like Rose on the floor.

    November and December was brutal to start the year but he came around in January.
    Not including tonight's game, Boozer is 48.4% (125 for 258) from the floor in January and February, which would be the worse FG% of his career.

    I am not confident he would regain his old form if traded and, at his salary, anything but his old self is overpaying.

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    Update seems aptors are the ones holding back The deal would include Bargnani + "fan favorite" (shudders) JL3 for Boozer and Nate Robinson....

    Chicago seems to be the ones pursuing this deal not Toronto as much. Interesting Maybe Boozer and that rookie guard of theirs would do it.

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-boozer-trade/

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    For once a player who might have more power than the bad guys up front. The Raps have desperately needed a power player in the lane for so many years now.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Defense is a team thing that everyone has to commit to. Bargs' man D has been good for a couple of seasons now, but he just is very rarely engaged in playing team D, filling spaces and helping properly. He also doesn't rebound, which a lot of coaches try to tell guys is the most important part of D, because solid D doesn't matter if you can't get the ball. Boozer definitely rebounds, and he's clearly been committed enough to fit into maybe the best D in the league.
    Remember Casey is a defensive coach, even if thibs couldn't teach him good defense, Boozer has a possibility in fitting into Casey's defensive system regardless and proving everyone wrong on D. Given the age of 31, he still has a good couple years left in the tank in terms of offense and D

    Also, Boozer is better than Bargs at D than he ever will be
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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Update seems aptors are the ones holding back The deal would include Bargnani + "fan favorite" (shudders) JL3 for Boozer and Nate Robinson....

    Chicago seems to be the ones pursuing this deal not Toronto as much. Interesting Maybe Boozer and that rookie guard of theirs would do it.

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-boozer-trade/
    well i like that Nate was included..hed be a great backup... im also glad though that the Raps are going to keep there options open on this one...No sense in rushing things... these discusions may up the ante on other teams offers & get the ball rolling for another potential deal

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a28zws9

    Boozer/Robinson

    for

    Bargnani/Lucas


    Draft pick included from Chicago and I'm good with it.
    Not going to rain on your parade but why would Chicago give up Robinson and a pick? As boneheaded Robinson is, he's been playing well under Thibs. I can't believe the amount of money coming into this team. We've officially become the NBA's luxury tax overpaid players dumping site. Fortunately for Colangelo, he can spin this to the board how these players will only come to the Raps via trade and would never consider signing here as free agents.

    Ad for Boozer's defence, I'd argue it's worse than Bargs! He's got Noah back there to clean things up for him! He has a knack for rebounding though. But still, a lot of money!!!
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    Oklahoma and San Antonio shakes their heads.
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    Only reason I see the Bulls taking JL back, is the fact that he already has the chemistry with most of the Bulls

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Give us marquis Teague and a first round pick and we'll do it
    And take Kleiza.

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    If we throw in Anderson, I'd gladly take back Teague!!! Other than that, this trade isn't going to end well for the Raps. Bargs is still young. Booze is also injury prone. This one scares me.
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    If we throw in Anderson, I'd gladly take back Teague!!! Other than that, this trade isn't going to end well for the Raps. Bargs is still young. Booze is also injury prone. This one scares me.
    Bargs is also still trash
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    Quote JordanMariam14 wrote: View Post
    Why this? Boozer is SO old he's going to lose it in a year or two, especially since he's on the 11th seed in the East.

    I say we make a trade for Luke Ridnour and Derrick Williams for Andrea Bargnani, in my opinion that would be a huge steal for us.
    A steal because it will never happen. Why do people think Minny is just gonna give us Williams for Bargs. Enough already.
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    Oklahoma and San Antonio shakes their heads.
    +100

    They'd be so pissed/dumbfounded at BC helping out another good franchise get better.

    Although I'd kind of like to see this trade because Thibs is one of the few people in the world who could get Bargs playing to his potential.

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    This would be idea trade http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine for Tor,LA,and BNets

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    Quote KHD wrote: View Post
    For the record, Gasol is older than Boozer.
    Yes I know but he is an expiring contract next year. I would want Gasol for his contract not for his game. Boozer has 2 years left (after this year) at $15.3M and $16.8M. Boozer does not guarantee playoffs, he's just an overpaid PF with a bad contract (worse than Bargnani's). Bargnani can be amnestied, Boozer can't.

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