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Thread: Rudy Gay "Pseudo Superstar"

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    Rudy Gay isn't a franchise changer, but he's an all-star calibre potential talent, who is a piece that significantly helps a franchise, not entirely change it though.

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    I love how we choose to remember the VC Tmac days....Don't people remember THE REST OF THAT TEAM???

    Vince and TMAC played with guys like dell curry, chris childs, doug christie, antonio davis, Kevin Willis, Alvin williams and Charles Oakley.

    We were really a tough bruising team that could defend, and was well rounded, we just needed some more playoff experience together.

    These were more than formidable role players. We had leadership, a post presence on offense in AD, toughness, and most importantly, coach that played the best guys . For god sake, how good were the Raptors when VC was playing with a young Chris Bosh and the guys we had on that team? Did you guys ever LOOK at those rosters (2002-2005)??

    VC was never a savior. Just an amazing Dunker. We won ONE playoff series.

    My point is, there is no reason why this version of the Raptors cannot be just as successful (i.e. ONE playoff series win).
    But Gay and Derozan will not determine this, just as VC and TMAC never did either. They were parts of a whole.

    If we can trot out a starting lineup with a developed Jonas and a consistent Kyle Lowry, while taking the mish-mash of guys we have on the bench and turning them into a solid 4 man bench rotation, we might even be better than that team.

    The whole idea of a `franchise` savior is ridiculous.

    Maybe once a decade or so, a single player can turn a franchise into a winning team by JUST being on the team and making the other guys better. Even Kobe is not one of those guys. Lebron, Michael Jordan, Maybe KD, Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, Duncan...these are the types of people you need to talk about and they are all in the top 20 who ever played.

    Let`s talk about reality. We were headed no where and turned around a guy mediocre guy like Jose into a great player in Gay. Derozan is more effective BECAUSE Gay is on the team.

    because of that trade and having Gay, there is a conceivable way where we can make the 4th or 5th seed next year and be a relevant team again.

    Anyone who thinks that Gay is not elevating this team to another level is crazy. Anyone who remembers Carter and McGrady as being franchise saviors, or putting the team on their back any more than Gay has already done is crazier.

    One playoff series win with Gay on the team and he has matched Carter. Doesn`t matter how nice some of those dunks were
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    Quote BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    I love how we choose to remember the VC Tmac days....Don't people remember THE REST OF THAT TEAM???

    Vince and TMAC played with guys like dell curry, chris childs, doug christie, antonio davis, Kevin Willis, Alvin williams and Charles Oakley.

    We were really a tough bruising team that could defend, and was well rounded, we just needed some more playoff experience together.

    These were more than formidable role players. We had leadership, a post presence on offense in AD, toughness, and most importantly, coach that played the best guys . For god sake, how good were the Raptors when VC was playing with a young Chris Bosh and the guys we had on that team? Did you guys ever LOOK at those rosters (2002-2005)??

    VC was never a savior. Just an amazing Dunker. We won ONE playoff series.

    My point is, there is no reason why this version of the Raptors cannot be just as successful (i.e. ONE playoff series win).
    But Gay and Derozan will not determine this, just as VC and TMAC never did either. They were parts of a whole.

    If we can trot out a starting lineup with a developed Jonas and a consistent Kyle Lowry, while taking the mish-mash of guys we have on the bench and turning them into a solid 4 man bench rotation, we might even be better than that team.

    The whole idea of a `franchise` savior is ridiculous.

    Maybe once a decade or so, a single player can turn a franchise into a winning team by JUST being on the team and making the other guys better. Even Kobe is not one of those guys. Lebron, Michael Jordan, Maybe KD, Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, Duncan...these are the types of people you need to talk about and they are all in the top 20 who ever played.

    Let`s talk about reality. We were headed no where and turned around a guy mediocre guy like Jose into a great player in Gay. Derozan is more effective BECAUSE Gay is on the team.

    because of that trade and having Gay, there is a conceivable way where we can make the 4th or 5th seed next year and be a relevant team again.

    Anyone who thinks that Gay is not elevating this team to another level is crazy. Anyone who remembers Carter and McGrady as being franchise saviors, or putting the team on their back any more than Gay has already done is crazier.

    One playoff series win with Gay on the team and he has matched Carter. Doesn`t matter how nice some of those dunks were
    Couldn't agree anymore! Thier are few players that change a team by just being on it but those aren't the only teams that win every year. I love the way this franchise is going.

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