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What If We Don't Retain Lowry This Summer?
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Trading Lowry wouldn't be about getting back a great pick. It would be about improving our 2014 pick through losing, which, most would agree is a likely case if he gets moved. In any event, a few more losses in the next week or so to sub-par teams like the Celts and Lakers and we won't have to worry about this in the summer. Lowry will be gone by the deadline!!
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Trading Lowry at the deadline is a death wish for MU. That's derailing any playoff success for a mediocre pick (either 8th seed and destroyed by Indiana/Miami) or just outside the playoffs. That's the no man's land that I envision MU was trying to avoid.
I think its too late to trade Lowry. You hope he doesn't get an injury and that he sustains his play until the end of the year. You hope you can resign him to a decent salary (and I think it might be possible due the saturated PG market) and then look to trade him next year if they really want him gone. I just hope they don't over pay him as then I think it becomes harder to trade him if that's the goal.
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ebrian wrote: View PostIf we don't re-sign Kyle Lowry, and we don't trade him, then you guys may as well un-censor the †ank word because it'll be back in force next season.Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:53 AM.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostIf he is not here then you assess if Vasquez can play 35 mins and win. If your not sold on that then you sign an upgrade out of FA - Kirk Hinrich may be the best choice
As I've said here before: Lowry is the only above average PG who is available in free agency next year. Seriously, here is a list on unrestricted free agent point guards in 2014:
Lowry
Hinrich
Mario Chalmers
Jerryd Bayless
Luke Ridnour
Shaun Livingston
Ramon Sessions
Patty Mills
Jimmer Fredette
Devin Harris
Aaron Brooks
AJ Price
Beno Udrih
Nate Robinson (player option)
Darren Collison (player option)
Mo Williams (player option)
Eric Maynor (player option)
Look at that list. It's mostly a bunch of career backups and scrubs. Other than Lowry, the only starter-quality PGs on that list are Mario Chalmers (who is okay) and MAYBE Nate Robinson. Lowry is going to command a high salary for that reason alone: someone is going to offer him at least $12m per year, especially if he goes to the All-Star Game. This is why I've been so inclined to trade him: he's going to be more expensive than he's worth.
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TRex wrote: View PostJust an idea. Would u guys do this?
To Raptors - Rubio + Wolves 1st round pick.
To Wolves - Lowry.“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostAnd group-think will wonder why the Raptors didn't start the rebuild/retool last season, ahead of the loaded 2014 draft, while watching so many well known prospects make names for themselves as rookies while playing against the Raptors and helping their teams leapfrog Toronto in the standings. Good times!
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...014-nba-draft/“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI think the assumption is that Lowry has more value than what you're insinuating. An example would be the rumored Knicks trade, which was well before Lowry's performance really took off. IF MU has reason to believe that Lowry won't be coming back (either because of Lowry's choice or salary demands), then any net-positive trade would be better for the long-term interests of this team. Obviously you don't trade him (and sacrifice playoffs this season) for garbage, or just to ****, as you mentioned.
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psrs1 wrote: View PostIt seems you have agreement with me despite your previous concerns re asset management. You previously seemed disinclined to risk letting Lowry walk if the right trade does not come along.
If the best possible return via trade is of minimal value (ie: late 2nd round pick) and the Raps look like they have a legitimate shot at hosting a 1st round playoff series, then the benefits of keeping him this season would outweigh the outcome of losing him for nothing. If sneaking into the playoffs as a low seed is the Raptors' ceiling, then I don't think twice about trading him for the best possible net-positive deal.
Option #1) trade Lowry for great return
Option #2) trade Lowry for any positive return, assuming Raptors' ceiling is #5-8 seed
Option #3) keep Lowry*, assuming Raptors ceiling is #3-4 seed and no great trade is available
* if Lowry ever makes it clear that he is definitely not interested in coming back, you trade him for any positive return, regardless of playoff positioning
Hopefully that clarifies my stance.Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:48 AM.
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Sidebar: Rubio has zero scoring ability. I don't think a guy like that will ever be a legitimate scorer and therefore, he'll never really be that effective on the team that is full of shooters. He's the type of guy that will help a team like Miami who has 2-3 superstars and you don't really need the point guard to do anything but pass the ball and play defense.
I remember when I wanted us to draft Kemba Walker and then he went and shot 37% in his rookie season and I thought OK maybe we dodged a bullet there. But looking at Rubio, Kemba's rookie year would be a career high for Rubio and Kemba has gotten progressively better.. Rubio has not.your pal,
ebrian
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostLetting Lowry walk for nothing would be my last resort. If I was MU and I firmly believed that Lowry wanted out of Toronto, based on in-season conversations with Lowry and/or Lowry's agent, I would take the best trade possible, even if it wasn't a "great" trade. The one thing I wouldn't do is agree to a trade that leaves the team in worse shape, just for the sake of trading, but I believe Lowry can return a net-positive trade package despite being on an expiring contract (ie: even an expiring contract and 2nd round pick is better than losing him for nothing).
If the best possible return via trade is of minimal value (ie: late 2nd round pick) and the Raps look like they have a legitimate shot at hosting a 1st round playoff series, then the benefits of keeping him this season would outweigh the outcome of losing him for nothing. If sneaking into the playoffs as a low seed is the Raptors' ceiling, then I don't think twice about trading him for the best possible net-positive deal.
Option #1) trade Lowry for great return
Option #2) trade Lowry for any positive return, assuming Raptors' ceiling is #5-8 seed
Option #3) keep Lowry*, assuming Raptors ceiling is #3-4 seed and no great trade is available
* if Lowry ever makes it clear that he is definitely not interested in coming back, you trade him for any positive return, regardless of playoff positioning
Hopefully that clarifies my stance.
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