Why is everyone still high on Lin? His wonder week is over. He's a scrub. The only reason he is still getting significant minutes is because he sells tickets. I mean for the past 5 games or so he's been shooting like 30% and averaging like 6 TO's.
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I think Lin is a feel good story and everyone had high hopes that he would turn into something like a megastar in the NBA. I could not bare to think what it would be like to wear his shoes, having the weight of a world sit on his shoulders telling him he's the best or he doesn't deserve all this praise. It's got to wear on him mentally. But I'm sure he wouldn't have it any other way. He's going through a rough time right now so how he ends the season (or makes the playoff) will definitely give some sort of indication of the type of player he is or can be. I think from that standpoint, would be better to judge if he can be part of the Toronto Raptors...#Raptor4Life, #Prepping4thePlayoffs
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Macc wrote: View PostWhy is everyone still high on Lin? His wonder week is over. He's a scrub. The only reason he is still getting significant minutes is because he sells tickets. I mean for the past 5 games or so he's been shooting like 30% and averaging like 6 TO's.
Yes the turnovers are high, but overall his stats aren't anywhere near what you claim them to be and certainly he cannot be considered a scrub based on these stats.
You also have to take into account that he is (was) expected to do a lot for New York, he had a usage rate of almost 30% (4th amongst point guards, about 10th in the league).
Btw, his turnover rate is only slightly above the turnover rate of Nash, who some people want to play here next year (4th and 5th amongst pg's playing at least 20 games and 20 minutes a game).
Stats from hoopdata and nba.com
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Apollo wrote: View PostWow, someone save this. This illustrates exactly what I was pointing out earlier. This guy has Rafer Alston disappointment written all over him.
Prime, this whole time when I was saying I would be worried about him being overpaid by the Raptors I had the full MLE in my mind. That's far too much.
Ain't that some shit.
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Prime wrote: View PostYet you are content with handing out the same amount of money to an aging PG who plays no defense and is only a marginally better playmaker.
Ain't that some shit.
Also if you compare Calderon's play when he earned that deal to Lin's play now it's not even close.
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Apollo wrote: View PostWho is this mystery PG? I know it can't be Calderon because he's more than "marginally better" at making plays.
Also if you compare Calderon's play when he earned that deal to Lin's play now it's not even close.
1. Jose is clearly only marginally better in assists. Please come back once you understand the meaning of marginally, thanks.Jose (07-08) 20.5 9.4 1.5 52 13.4 3.4 1.3 7.5M Lin 20.6 8.5 5.3 46 19.9 4.1 2.2 ???
2. Outside of FG% Lin is a much better offensive and defensive player. The only thing holding him back is his turnovers hence the lower than expected PER.
3. Jose's next contract began at 7.5M, which is afaik, 141% of that season's MLE. Adjusting for inflation that would mean that he earned ~8.1M in real terms. I'm talking about getting Lin this year for 5.8M, or 71% of that price. I don't see how this could be anything else but a bargain.Last edited by Prime; Mon Mar 19, 2012, 12:01 AM.
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Prime wrote: View PostLet's compare Jose's best season (the one "when he earned that deal") with Lin this season.
1. Jose is clearly only marginally better in assists. Please come back once you understand the meaning of marginally, thanks.Jose (07-08) 20.5 9.4 1.5 52 13.4 3.4 1.3 7.5M Lin 20.6 8.5 5.3 46 19.9 4.1 2.2 ???
2. Outside of FG% Lin is a much better offensive and defensive player. The only thing holding him back is his turnovers hence the lower than expected PER.
3. Jose's next contract began at 7.5M, which is afaik, 141% of that season's MLE. Adjusting for inflation that would mean that he earned ~8.1M in real terms. I'm talking about getting Lin this year for 5.8M, or 71% of that price. I don't see how this could be anything else but a bargain.
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Prime wrote: View PostLet's compare Jose's best season (the one "when he earned that deal") with Lin this season.
1. Jose is clearly only marginally better in assists. Please come back once you understand the meaning of marginally, thanks.Jose (07-08) 20.5 9.4 1.5 52 13.4 3.4 1.3 7.5M Lin 20.6 8.5 5.3 46 19.9 4.1 2.2 ???
2. Outside of FG% Lin is a much better offensive and defensive player. The only thing holding him back is his turnovers hence the lower than expected PER.
3. Jose's next contract began at 7.5M, which is afaik, 141% of that season's MLE. Adjusting for inflation that would mean that he earned ~8.1M in real terms. I'm talking about getting Lin this year for 5.8M, or 71% of that price. I don't see how this could be anything else but a bargain.
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Lin went scrub-hunting tonight. His prey? Jerryd Bayless.
Apollo wrote: View PostWow, someone save this. This illustrates exactly what I was pointing out earlier. This guy has Rafer Alston disappointment written all over him.Last edited by Prime; Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:18 PM.
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