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p00ka wrote: View PostSpeaking for myself at least, the tank/no-tank divide isn't as simply defined as that, perhaps on either side.
I'm just opposed to selling low on players. Trading Lowry and Gay now just to tank would be kind of silly, especially considering it's very likely that they will raise their value during this season since they're in contract years (and also in bigger roles than they have been for most of their careers). Pretty sure Ujiri knows this as well.
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Xixak wrote: View PostI'm not overestimating the roster. I expect us to win anywhere from 35-41 games. This has a lot to do with the team being poorly coached.
People kind of underestimate how big of an impact good coaching can make on a team. Look at the Grizzlies and tell me what amazing talents they had that allowed them to win 56 games. It's not a coincidence either that unknown players go to the Spurs and play amazing, then wet the bed as soon as they go elsewhere (Roger Mason Jr. anyone?).
Yes, winning in the NBA is about talent, but it's also about maximizing the talent you have.
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p00ka wrote: View PostJust like it was no coincidence that player after player had career years with Nash feeding them, then fizzled elsewhere.
Some teams make the mistake of trying to mold players into what they want them to be, instead of maximizing and improving on the talents they already have. Generally these teams do not perform well. We saw it right here in Toronto, with the Raptors trying to develop Bargnani as a center when that was clearly not what he was designed to do.
As much as we hate the guy for his laziness. If he had been drafted by a team with a better player development system I'm sure he would've turned out much differently.
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Xixak wrote: View PostSome teams make the mistake of trying to mold players into what they want them to be, instead of maximizing and improving on the talents they already have.
Right now, the Indiana Pacers are taking a guy who played most of his life as a scoring guard, George Hill, and have turned him into a pretty decent point guard. The Atlanta Hawks once again are playing a natural power forward, Al Horford, as a center. Both those players have done admirably, but might do even better if they played positions more suited to their game.
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slaw wrote: View PostYou really think the Raps have more talent than a 57-win Denver team? The Nuggets had so many quality players Karl couldn't find minutes for everyone. More than that, the collection of players Denver has (or had) compliment(ed) each other on the floor in a way that the "big-fat-ball-of-elastic bands-glue-duct tape-paper mache-pile of crap" roster that Colangelo built doesn't.
Even after last year, people are still badly overestimating this roster. It's going to be another major disappointment for some people this season.
A big part of the Nuggets success that cannot be duplicated is that they play in Denver with the elevation. Don't think that's a big factor? Denver went 38-3 at home last year and were 3 games under .500 on the road (19-22). That is too big of a disparity to ignore.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.
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We have better offensive talent yet we fall short of the Nuggets in virtually every offensive metric. We have better defensive talent yet fall short in a bunch of defensive metrics beyond raw points allowed per game (attributed to Denver's breakneck pace).
Naturally, when you have superior talent on both sides of the ball compared to a certain team... you lose 23 more games than them in a season.
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I like the idea of trying those strategies. Although the current personnel is anti-George Karl. I'd be curious to know what Karl himself would do with these guys. I suspect they'd either transform as players, or he would strangle them. Gay and DeMar especially. But Jonas too to a degree, George Karl wouldn't allow all those shot fakes.
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BobLoblaw wrote: View PostI like the idea of trying those strategies. Although the current personnel is anti-George Karl. I'd be curious to know what Karl himself would do with these guys. I suspect they'd either transform as players, or he would strangle them. Gay and DeMar especially. But Jonas too to a degree, George Karl wouldn't allow all those shot fakes.
Reporter: How do you feel about the execution of your players?
Coach: I'm all for it.
Another unrelated but somehow fits for the Raps:
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."—Weldon DrewHeir, Prince of Cambridge
If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.
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BobLoblaw wrote: View PostI like the idea of trying those strategies. Although the current personnel is anti-George Karl. I'd be curious to know what Karl himself would do with these guys. I suspect they'd either transform as players, or he would strangle them. Gay and DeMar especially. But Jonas too to a degree, George Karl wouldn't allow all those shot fakes.
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Craiger wrote: View PostGeorge Karl would do what he's done for the past decade and a half. Play fast pace basketball that attempts to outscore his opponents, win a solid number of games in the regular season, and then lose in the first round of the playoffs because that brand of basketball doesn't fit the playoffs"Stop eating your sushi."
"I do actually have a pair of Uggs."
"I've had three cups of green tea tonight. I'm wired. I'm absolutely wired."
- Jack Armstrong
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