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Tim W. wrote: View PostStrongly disagree with your here. Not necessarily the Barnes part, but teams generally only go as far as their best player. If the Raptors have a chance to get a true elite franchise player, that's far better than having two All-Stars. Memphis and Atlanta are the perfect examples of teams with All-Stars, but no true franchise player. I definitely don't want to copy that.
But then again, I could change my mind once the NCAA season wraps up.
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Tim W. wrote: View PostStrongly disagree with your here. Not necessarily the Barnes part, but teams generally only go as far as their best player. If the Raptors have a chance to get a true elite franchise player, that's far better than having two All-Stars. Memphis and Atlanta are the perfect examples of teams with All-Stars, but no true franchise player. I definitely don't want to copy that.
It's early, but so far the only players that appear to be instant game changers based on their play (and it's early) is Lamb and Davis and for Davis it's on 1 end of the court.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI get what you're saying. But I suppose I just haven't seen enough from Davis or Drummond to without-a-doubt say they're franchise-changing players. They're both projects who may never reach their potential (unlike Duncan, LeBron, Shaq, Griffin, Howard, etc. who were NBA-ready immediately)
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sleepz wrote: View PostThe thing is that not only can't you not be sure that Davis or Drummond are franchise players, there is also no guarantee that you will be in a position to draft them. More ping-pong balls help but don't necessarily ensure the top pick in the draft.
It's early, but so far the only players that appear to be instant game changers based on their play (and it's early) is Lamb and Davis and for Davis it's on 1 end of the court.
I have no problem with going after Gay, but I'd rather wait until after the lottery when we know exactly where the Raptors are going to draft.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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planetmars wrote: View PostUnfortunately Gay is going to cost the Raptors. Gay is a huge asset for them. They will probably expect a first rounder. Would you be willing to give up our pick for Gay? Assuming it is the only pick we have?Last edited by mcHAPPY; Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:57 PM.
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Tim W. wrote: View PostI'm VERY high on Davis, right now. I haven't see enough of Drummond to really judge, but from a physical standpoint, he's certainly tantalizing. And there's a good chance another player will step up before the end of the year.
Davis had foul trouble and it limited not only his playing time but Kentucky as well.
Davis is such an impact on the game when he is on the court. Every defensive rebound that went up was essentially his and the psychological factor of shooting anywhere in his vicinity was obvious on the opponents. Offensively, he is still a work in progress but, as a passer/facilitator, he is tremendous and the spacing he helps creates due to the constant threat of an alley oop certainly helps his teammates.
It will be interesting to see how he plays for the next few months.
Dick Vitale had a good point about the foul trouble and really stooopid fouls. Essentially he said (paraphrasing), "This is his 8th collegiate game. He is going to make dumb mistakes and he'll figure it out. He is an unbelievable talent." I have to agree and we need only look to last year at Harrison Barnes as a guy who needed around 15 games to figure it all out.
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sleepz wrote: View PostIt's early, but so far the only players that appear to be instant game changers based on their play (and it's early) is Lamb and Davis and for Davis it's on 1 end of the court.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Matt52 wrote: View PostDid you see Kentucky versus Indiana by any chance?
Davis had foul trouble and it limited not only his playing time but Kentucky as well.
Davis is such an impact on the game when he is on the court. Every defensive rebound that went up was essentially his and the psychological factor of shooting anywhere in his vicinity was obvious on the opponents. Offensively, he is still a work in progress but, as a passer/facilitator, he is tremendous and the spacing he helps creates due to the constant threat of an alley oop certainly helps his teammates.
It will be interesting to see how he plays for the next few months.
Dick Vitale had a good point about the foul trouble and really stooopid fouls. Essentially he said (paraphrasing), "This is his 8th collegiate game. He is going to make dumb mistakes and he'll figure it out. He is an unbelievable talent." I have to agree and we need only look to last year at Harrison Barnes as a guy who needed around 15 games to figure it all out.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostNo, there's no guarantee you'll get a top 2 or 3 pick, but why make it harder? More ping pong balls don't necessarily ensure a top 3 pick, but it does gives you better odds. At this point, Gay isn't a franchise player, so you're hamstringing your future for the sake of a player who can't actually lead your team anywhere. TO me, it's settling and that's not way to build a team, in my opinion.
I have no problem with going after Gay, but I'd rather wait until after the lottery when we know exactly where the Raptors are going to draft.
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